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Outrage in India over video of teacher telling kids to slap Muslim student (www.aljazeera.com)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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A school teacher in India has subjected a seven-year-old Muslim student to degrading treatment inside a classroom, asking his classmates to slap him and asking for him to be evicted due to his religion, a video now viral on social media has revealed.

The video, which surfaced on Friday, showed Trapta Tyagi, the teacher at the school in Uttar Pradesh, India’s most populous state, making Islamophobic remarks in addition to encouraging other students to slap him harder.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago

Disgraceful. Humanity is having a very hard time in leaving barbarism behind.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I see why people are outraged, no student should be slapped for just being Muslim.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How about "no student should be slapped ~~for just being Muslim~~"

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (4 children)

One might come to the conclusion that all of India is just a comically evil racist, classist, sexist and a lot of other bad -ists society while reading news about it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Talk to a dark skin person of lower caste its not great

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Are you a brahmin or why would you describe talking to someone from a lower caste as 'not great'?

Just kidding.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Like they talk to anyone of a lower class lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I guess they are saying that if you speak to a person of lower caste, especially of dark skin you will understand their struggle. (But I am a naive person so my explanation might be hopelessly optimistic about people)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

There's also the 2nd level of hell that is being born in the right sub-caste in a specific caste.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Going out on a limb here to guess that "Hank" has never been to India?

There's a whole lot of crazy bad but also an incredible amount of absurdly beautiful. I think unfortunately the worldview in India accepts both equally and generally believes, in the words of Bruce Hornsby or Tupac, that's just the way it is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If your worldview accepts horribly bad and good, it’s still horribly bad. You can’t wash that away with some good.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't disagree at all. And if your worldview allows you to paint 1.4B people with the same brush based on the news you've read, also quite horribly bad (and pretty fucking racist) IMO.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You’ve changed my mind.

Like all the poor innocent Germans who were lumped in with the government they voted for, supported, and allowed to exist.

It was wrong to call them Nazis and disapprove of the genocide they were committing!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ding ding ding we got a Godwin 🔔🔔

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Ironic, you quote Godwins law but even Godwin himself has said such a mention is not cause for ending a conversation.

So instead of missing the point of Godwins law like you have, instead focus on what was said: Why seperate Indians from their state, but not do so with other notable examples of genocide commiters?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I imagine most stories of people helping old windows, adopting children, and being best friends with another race don't make the international news.

Man bites dog.

[+] [email protected] -27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was told that only white people can be racist.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Muslim isn't a race

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

That makes it okay?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Race is a categorization of humans based on shared physical or social qualities into groups generally viewed as distinct within a given society.

Barnshaw, John (2008). "Race". In Schaefer, Richard T. (ed.). Encyclopedia of Race, Ethnicity, and Society. Vol. 1

(first sentence of the wikipedia article, emphasis mine)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would say that, strictly speaking, race, religion, and culture are different things, but with a lot over overlap. "Jewish" is a perfect example of this. "Jewish" can refer to religion, race, nationality, and/or culture - in any combination, all at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well that is because almost no one is part of the religion if they aren't from the ethnic groups and people who are part of the ethnic groups generally follow the religion and culture. It is a near perfect circle venn diagram. Unlike religions like Islam and Christianity and to a lesser extent Buddhism.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Close enough.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Go to Indonesia and say Muslim is a race with a straight face.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Go anywhere and say anything is a race with a straight face.

Unless you’ve got a secret group of Neanderthals hidden in your closet, we are all the same race. So racism has to follow lines of ethnicity of which religion is a huge defining factor.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Race doesn't have to make sense for racism to be real. The Chinese Zodiac massively influences humanity and yet astrology is bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Right but what we call racism is discrimination against ethnicities not races. And like I said, religion is a big part of identity for many ethnic groups across the planet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

totally massive topic change but i really find this whole "astrology isn't real" stuff to be kinda funny.

i think you fail to see what the sky looked like when people really believed this stuff, you'd believe it too seeing the sky all lit up and gorgeous.

on top of that, i sort of do believe babies born in certain times of the year whether it is the time of the year or diet of the mother really influenced them and their attitude. babies in winter probably were held more and developed different than a baby born in the summer able to go outside and be exposed to pollen.

our world now might be so chaotic it doesn't apply but at the time i think astrology makes absolute 100% sense. you really don't think the seasons or how the planets are aligned have any impact upon our day to day life or child development?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

First off you are assuming things about me. You are assuming I have never worked on a ship, have never been in the middle of the Wyoming badlands, wasn't raised in deep Appalachia. I know what the stars look like.

Secondly you can believe whatever you want. I care about evidence and you have none. If this were true the insurance companies would be data mining the hell out of it. You are also assuming the seasons of the very north where the majority of the human race does not live.

And no I don't think the alignments of the planets or the season you were born in has an impact that can be consistently demonstrated. Even if there was something to the season thing it would break pretty easy once you factor in lifestyle differences. A baby born in Manhattan apartment is probably going to have different amount of outdoor time compared to a baby born in a big house on LI. Despite them having virtually the same weather.

Also for a person defending the Chinese Zodiac you don't seem to know how it works. It works on years not months. There is a reason why people talk about babies born in the year of _____.

Basically you are doing what everyone does to defend pseudoscience. You started with a conclusion and try to prove it right, when you can't you weaken the conclusion until you think you can slip it in. So instead of skydaddy writing our fates in the stars it is maybe pollen exposure does something. Never mind that your weakened claim has no association at all with what the people who believe in astrology argue.

Anecdotal I know but when me and my wife were engaged my mother-in-law went to an astrologist to ask if it was a good idea. That is astrology, that is the claim, not watered down maybe pollen. This is as frustrating as arguing with diests.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

but you're talking about modern day astrology.

what i am saying is if you were born a thousand years ago, you likely won't and didn't travel far you're local for life. the season there, the ecosystem there is influenced by the season so there was a time when astrology absolutely made sense

this is not the astrology of today.

but my point is you're basically coming off like one of those aggressive atheists declaring it is wrong and dumb when you like actually aren't really seeing the history of reading the stars as a respectable thing.

also it literally doesn't matter. nowhere you go on the planet is going to replicate a time before artificial light. even if you left the planet, you won't see the true night sky of earth

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I see so you weakened the claim further by setting it in the past.

I am an aggressive atheist, it is wrong and dumb, and I dont see it as a respectable thing. I am glad I conveyed exactly what I am about.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The same conviction you're against you have. Smfh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Attack the argument not the person. Sorry you can't defend your pollen "theory"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you're literally the smallest minded person I've ever met on the internet lmfao you read nothing said. so worthless, so cocky.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Still doing it.