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All the things you want is only possible with a Harris win. You want a better political system and stuff like ranked choice voting or viable third parties? Only happens with the Democrats in control. Nothing that you want will EVER happen with Republicans in control and a vote for a third party in this election does nothing but help Republicans.

If you're refusing to hold your nose and vote Harris because of some bs reason like 'she hasn't earned my vote' when the alternative is a demented fascist that supports stuff like monitoring womens' periods then you deserve all the vote shaming you get.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Vote Green? Vote for Trump.

Vote PSL? Vote for Trump.

Vote for Stalin? Vote for Trump?

Vote for Kamala? That's right, vote for Trump

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

Vote for Kamala? That's right, vote for Trump

they told us that already when they said ONLY JOE BIDEN can beat trump. Any other vote is a vote for trump, vote biden in november

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Laughing at them complaining about purity tests from the left when they pull this

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (3 children)

If you're refusing to hold your nose and vote Harris because of some bs reason like 'she hasn't earned my vote'

Some bs reason like entire residential blocks in Beirut being reduced to ashes to kill 1 hero? Or the 200,000+ dead before that?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Not voting for genocide. Simple as.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

How DARE you expect somebody to EARN your vote? You are obligated to vote for her.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I always bring this up and they call me a single issue voter.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Easy retort, every person who was murdered is their own separate issue. Hell, make it easy for the libs: every group of 100 people who were murdered becomes their own separate issue.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Thanks I'll use that one

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm voting for Joe Biden. A vote for any other candidate is a vote for Trump

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Do libs ever wonder how come the default outcome of their “democratic” process is fascism?

Edited to make it clear I’m not addressing op specifically

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

I think it's meant as a joke since Biden isn't running anymore.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Let’s say candidate one said “if I win I’ll kill 3 babies,” and candidate two said “if I win I’ll only kill 1 baby”. Then you cast a protest vote for candidate three because “they’re both bad.”

The problem is, that means you were willing to risk the deaths of 2 extra babies to prove your point, which means you’re actually a worse person than candidate two.

More will suffer with Trump in charge. So voting third party is just you using others’ pain to prove your own point.

They're doing the murdering babies analogy unprompted now.

Link to comment just in case you think I'm making it up.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Plot twist: candidate two ends up killing 3 babies anyway once they get elected, and everyone who voted for them is dead silent once this happens.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

They're doing the murdering babies analogy unprompted now.

My first thought was "Holy mother of fuck!" But then I realized such "logic" has surely been floating around the net since early in the genocide in Gaza. The libs needed to create what they considered to be a moral case for voting for Biden and sometimes "Trump would be worse" wasn't strong enough. They had to hammer the point home.

I wonder if some libs use the "kill 1 baby" argument in real life.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

The underlying assumption that millions of other people will of course be voting for some amount of baby murder

But of course the ones to blame are the tiny minority who don't, somehow

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I've been seeing a lot of comments from libs with the exact phrase "hold your nose" lately, I'm not a politics messaging expert but you'd think maybe you wouldn't want to portray your chosen candidate as being total shit?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

That phrase has most likely been doing the rounds on articles and now they're just repeating what they read.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

you wouldn't want to portray your chosen candidate as being total shit?

But they want, actually. If Democrats promised something tangible, they would have to deliver it or look like lying shit. If they promise nothing, they wouldn't have to do anything.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

That requires effort though

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

“All you want is there for the taking under a Zachary Taylor presidency! You want a better political system, only gonna happen under the whigs. Nothing you want will ever happen under Jacksonian Democrat control and voting for the third party’s that are actually anti slavery will just give the Jacksonian Democrats what they want.

If you are holding your nose to not vote for Zachary Taylor, when the alternative is insane slavery expansionist James K Polk that supports things like taking over Texas to give the slave states more senators, than you deserve to be vote shamed.

What I like for my president is a person who compromises so hard and so good that it feels like I’m losing.”

  • an American rad lib 1849
[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Projection levels off the charts with how libs go back to brunch between presidential elections

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I still miss the old wine cave jpeg composite that someone made me that included all of the above in one go. I misplaced it when I moved and got a new computer. sicko-wistful

Then again, the person on the left there actually became pretty cool and good lately so I'd need a substitute. Maybe... how-much-could-it-cost

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Did they? Who are they and what have they been up to?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

The world is not a fucking trolley problem, there are infinite alternative options to actually stop the murder. And unless you're actively involved in organising to do so, you have no right to talk about voting to improve the system.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

sorry your compromised party couldn't find a way to select a candidate that can guarantee victory. I guess those opaque, backroom deals by all those clever adults who know so much more than us foolish children weren't so clever hmmmmmm.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Causing chaos is when you run for an election and you're not a democrat

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

I'm voting Jevil 2024

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

So many people just analyzing shit off vibes and trying to convince themselves they are superior for being blue maga. Goddamn.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Explaining the third party vote to an american: imagine the joker

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

apparently killing too many children in the middle East is a bs reason for not voting for a candidate

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

https://lemmy.world/post/20330014

Funny how it's the exact same on world

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

i-voted AND YOU'LL VOTE TOO!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

"i dont need you! you need me!!", i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I ain't voting for ~~genocide joe~~ kill em all harris

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Holocaust Harris

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

"Predictable" cycle. Yeah. The Capitalist Party always wins elections in the US.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

doesn't tim cook already monitor women periods?