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I am shocked. Shocked! /s

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[–] [email protected] 132 points 10 months ago (11 children)

@dantheclamman

I am definitely starting to hate #Mozilla.

As a remark: I have always been fine with their deal with Pocket and having Google as their default search engine. In the end, there are bills to be paid.

Until I learned that e.g. Mozilla Corporation's CEO is on a multi-million dollar salary, and they're hiring ai and ad people.

Not OK for an entity where many highly skilled people code for free.

It's not what users want the cash to be spent on.

Leaving the Fedi is the final drop

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I was cool with them buying Pocket. But as a long time user of Pocket, I feel it has horribly stagnated. Far more features have been lost than have been gained.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

And JFC the monthly subscription price for Pocket is steep for what it offers.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

You are the product. All they care about is getting companies paying

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

I think you might be overestimating how much code is contributed by unpaid volunteers...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

@mina @dantheclamman if so many people code for free, couldn't they have a simple Mastodon server run by a tech community? I think the actual leadership has no idea what Mozilla Foundation was.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Mozilla 2012: We're winning the browser war and saving the web. You're welcome.

Mozilla 2017: Competing with Chrome is hard. What if we break all existing extensions and never let people replace them all?

Mozilla 2021: Through inclusiveness and the power of positive thinking we will facilitate leadership towards in-depth studies of what we can do to improve social media.

Mozilla 2024: Running a small mastodon instance is just too hard, we give up.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Color me shocked

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Corporate only pay lip services to the public? I'm so shock! Shock I tell you!

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Just make a good browser.. Thats all I care about from mozilla.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I understand that they need to diversify so that they're not so dependent on Google's default search engine money. I don't know how they should do that.

But I'm not sure what they've been doing has been all that good of an idea.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

make their browser engine useable for 3rd parties and sell support, make an electron-like product and add premium features… there are so many browser-based products that people sell, and owning 1 of the only viable browser engines should be huge… the fact that firefox is still only barely able to be embedded is a travesty

it’d be especially valuable if they made a premium electron product that provided security/privacy guarantees, performance benefits, etc - they should siphon some of the profit off the number of for-profit companies that build electron apps

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

well paying execs multimillion dollar salaries aint helping thats for sure!

Also. What's the point of their mastodon server? It's cool but so what

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

with how many singular developers managed to do it based on Firefox when Mozilla couldn't pull their shit together, idk why anyone would still be holding their breath. just switch to a competent fork.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does it matter that they don't run an instance?

As long as they have accounts and keep them up to date, that is the main thing.

How many open source projects actually run and moderate instances?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This sucks (Was it really costing much money to run?) but as long as Firefox continues to work with full-flavor ublock I'm happy.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago

Weird that they called it a “Beta”, like running a chat server you didn’t code is somehow an experiment. Just say you couldn’t be arsed running it anymore.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago

Unfortunate, but not unexpected.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I guess hating Mozilla is very much in fashion. The tech chatterati have made it so.

They’ll move on, as they always do. I just hope Firefox is still here.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Critiquing Mozilla when they make mistakes is not the same as hating them. It is healthy to keep these organizations accountable

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

The issue is all signs point to them pivoting to AI and ad driven nonsense - they'll move on, but if the product goes to shit so will I. The rest is noise.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

did an AI become their CEO by now? dumb moz foundation.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I don't get why, I can't see this be difficult or costly to run, but then again I have no clue, never ran a Mastodon instance.

I would assume that it's not worth the small reach compared to running X / Bluesky / Threads accounts but then again, like I said, the cost must be super small. 🤷

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I'm not sure why they created one to begin with

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Running the server probably costs about $100 per year, plus one person's $180,000 salary

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

~~Google~~ Mozilla shutting down yet another project:

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I adore Firefox. Just tired of Mozilla trying features (FF Panorama) and hobbies (Notes) and then abandoning them

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Are they still running a matrix instance?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

This is too much information being processed at a time to me! 😵‍💫

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's a little cringe isn't it?

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