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There are a bunch of sicko neoliberals and insufferable redditors there, yes, but there are also some normal libs and a few comrades, and it seems like a good way to encourage lemmy generally to re-embrace leftism.

I've been using an alt to talk on there and it's honestly not that bad. It's a little bad, but not that bad. I think if we just try to patiently explain ourselves, we have a reasonable chance of reaching people and shifting the general political alignment.

Those of us who aren't up to dealing with ghouls (I am frequently included in this group) can just stay at home here and that's just fine.

Anyway, just an idea. I would appreciate feedback.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago

whenever i poke my head out of here it sucks

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure, we're not really organized in that way though. I'm just here for fun.

I sorta think it's easier to reach people in person cause there's an existing relationship with some level of trust, but people can do both.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

That's fair, I just had the idea because of a post about .world getting me to finally participate in one of their threads

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You should keep in mind the few the comrades are probably just other hex,ml,grad alts and not mainly world users.

Also their admin team like for example rooki are known reactionaries that push their view on everyone, so if you act too communist they will probably ban you, like how they purged the vegan mods

I think a better use of your time would be to get people to switch to other instances like zip, ee or db0 who are federated with us and we would be able to reach people more effectively from our hex accounts

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Ive been seeing a lot of decently based comments coming from there but their politics sub is basically straight up state dept propaganda.

They banned me a while back for I dont even know why. Probably telling someone to go fuck themselves or something.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's why it's good to try to patiently explain one's position, as cathartic as it is to curse at someone. My suggestion was to, in a certain sense, be minimally disruptive because the people involved would be following the instance rules, they'd just also be communists who are interested in persuading people.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

That's why it's good to try to patiently explain one's position

Holding certain opinions is deemed inherently uncivil to them, you can try presenting them as sweet as apple pie but the fact you're presenting them at all is going to piss them off. Remember the thread some guy made after getting banned here?, there were plenty of people explaining their position but they just called us all crazy anyway.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

it's good to try to patiently explain one's position

It sucks that the liberals don't have to do that and can just say "but did you consider human nature" smuglord or some other lazy shit. I'm not saying we shouldn't make our case; it's that under capitalism, the default position is the one the laziest assholes get to opt for because it already benefits them.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

imagine being so small the state department doesn't even know you exist yet you voluntarily doggedly stick to their party line.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago

Im gonna stay home for now, can't take the brainrot these days but I encourage others who can to agitate

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Agitating on lemmy is a waste of time, these are not normal people, these are Redditors who took redditing so seriously they decided to go make an even worse version of reddit

They're reactionaries and bigots the whole lot of them, if there's any place on the internet we should be agitating on it's Tik Tok before it gets banned, tens of millions of people regularly liking leftist Tik Tok content that wouldn't be out of place here on Hexbear, and we're still obsessed with a couple hundred dipshit Redditors who regularly upvote pro-genocide and pro-neonazi content every single day

For over a year now I've maintained that outreach, agitating, federating, and in general educating has always been a lauded goal, but the problem is the quality of the people we're interacting with and the people on lemmy are barely worth a dunk thread let alone serious outreach

From my perspective it's like if someone kept pressing us to agitate on 4chan or some shit, it's such a profound waste of time and energy

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's not true. I joined .world first because I didn't know about hexbear and didn't know how the fediverse worked

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They're reactionaries and bigots the whole lot of them, if there's any place on the internet we should be agitating on it's Tik Tok before it gets banned, tens of millions of people regularly liking leftist Tik Tok content that wouldn't be out of place here on Hexbear, and we're still obsessed with a couple hundred dipshit Redditors who regularly upvote pro-genocide and pro-neonazi content every single day

The problem is that most people on Hexbear dot net think they're too good for Tiktok lol. But you are 100% right. People who are serious about treating social media as a propaganda front should be on Tiktok because that's where people are plugged in.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that most people on Hexbear dot net think they're too good for Tiktok lol

And I'll admit I used to be one of those people, until I gave it a shot and came across TikToks with 1 million plus likes with tens of thousands of comments about anti-imperialism, anti-capitalism, anti-racism....it was like finding the internet of a parallel universe where western leftism was actually a thing, I couldn't believe it

Then the state decided to ban it and that was all the confirmation I needed, it's the real deal and our asses have been way too slow to recognize the potential it offers

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

And I'll admit I used to be one of those people, until I gave it a shot and came across TikToks with 1 million plus likes with tens of thousands of comments about anti-imperialism, anti-capitalism, anti-racism....it was like finding the internet of a parallel universe where western leftism was actually a thing, I couldn't believe it

How do you find this on TikTok? Genuinely find the app impossible to navigate

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I am agitating wherever I go

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

is this you?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

that's a heckin brigaderino!!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I wonder how long it will be before this post is screenshotted and posted on hail.hit.ler or storm.front

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

Brogramming.chud is also in the running for that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

I was careful about my wording because I figured it was a possibility.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago
  1. I think we should focus our energies on lemm.ee, lemmy.ml, and various smaller instances like lemmy.zip instead.

  2. I don't trust the admin of lemmy.world at all and I would recommend people who have a lemmy.world account to exercise precaution.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I can't stand looking at liberal drivel for more than several minutes at a time

It's a benefit to my mental health to not engage with those people

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

neoliberals

*current fad kelly

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Agitating online isn't worth the effort unless you enjoy it. Tends to make you mad at libs without much accomplished, in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I thought they defederated from us?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Yeah, it would require making a different account (I just had one lying around from a year ago)

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