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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I used Boost exclusively. Great app with a lot of costumization and the ads weren't intrusive. I'll blow my dad before I ever use the official app. It's slow, comments take ages to read, and there's a million ads.

At this point, I won't return to reddit event if they were to roll back the changes and made ammends. I'd put money on them fucking up the experience further down the line.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

To be honest I'm still winding down there.

But for me, once the blind moderators said they can't work with the new system, that's pretty definitive for me. When people with disabilities have found and built their own ways to exercise equal power with others and protect their communities, and then those ways are wantonly taken away from them β€” yeah, that's bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

The tone shift, mainly. I mean, I knew it was going downhill, but I didn't realize it'd happen so quickly until the huge shift in tone after the protests. Then it kinda clicked that "whoa this place is turning into a shithole fast".

It's good old cancer. The influx people don't really know how to use the community, they don't "get it", and now there are enough of them to resist being driven away. It's unstoppable now. Every sub slowly turns into a shitpost sub, bit by bit, as the negatively creeps in subtly.

A single mod team can't hold it back, trolls are too smart for that, and trolling mods is too fun. It takes a larger community culture to keep them at bay. Lose that ... and watch for yourself. Should take a year or two, off the top of my head. Not even r/humansbeingbros with a mod army could withstand the coming times of darkness and despair. It would merely be the Rivendell among Sauron's endless hordes. lol

I gotta admit, I thought reddit was immune. The karma system. But a critical mass of users is capable of undermining and subverting it, and then spez came. While he could backtrack and possibly cure the cancer by inspiring some decency again, I don't think that's very likely. No profit in that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The CEO basically said fuck you to like 15% of users, and hes doubling down on lies about it.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Losing Apollo for one.

But what really actually disgusted me was how Spez is throwing people like Christian under the bus.

I would’ve gladly paid for Apollo and given Reddit a fair cut. Not anymore. Lemmy seems pretty great so far.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Same reason as everyone else, I reckon.

Apollo is the only way I’ve used reddit for about 6 years.

I don’t want ads, and I don’t want my data serving as an asset to capitalist pigs!

the fediverse was/is quite a daunting platform. I’m here for the long run (hopefully), but I worry that it will either continue to be a relatively vacant space compared to other media, or crumble under the weight of unexpected operating costs.

To anyone who has been here for quite some time, I ask you: what are some useful tricks to make the most out of the service?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Been wanting to quit reddit for a few years. Recent incidents just accelerated the process. I will still visit few smaller subreddits from time to time as I still see the original reddit charm in those places.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

other people did, finally

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

It's a lot of reasons.

  1. Reddit always felt like "The Inquirer" magazine to me. It was mostly trashy gossip, but I had a few forums that had good discussions.

2 I'm not really involved in any of the commercialized social media platforms because I don't like feeling like I'm the product. I don't like feeling like I'm being manipulated by an algorithm. I don't use YouTube or Facebook or any if the others either. I liked Reddit in that I could just browse without an account.

  1. My phone and computer is my most personal storage. It's my diary, bank account, addressbook, calendar, personal correspondence and more. I can change my life and become a digital hermit, but I shouldn't have to. For this reason and #2, I only install applications on my phone and computer that I can trust will behave alongside all that juicy data about my life. I trust my spouse, doctor and lawyer with this information and no one else. This means that your spy app (Reddit app, too) doesn't get to be on my phone or computer. I only run apps that I can view the source code for (with a few exceptions, like banking). Same for the operating system (sorry, Apple. Sorry, Google). I know it's not bulletproof, but it's better than most.

  2. Finally, I didn't know that there was an alternative. When this API stuff started, I first learned about Lemmy and Mastodon.

There's a lot more, but Lemmy's what I've been looking for for some time now, I just needed a nudge.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Apollo going away was the catalyst for me. I will never use Reddit's garbage website or first-party app.

Plus Lemmy gave me an excuse to host another neat service and still waste the same time I did on Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

where do I start, censorship, the free speech side died as soon as the Chinese investors came in, the owners not giving the third party any leeway, and of course my favourite apps going, but im praying Lemmy become the new reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Reddit has gone downhill so much over the years; RIF was the only way I could continue to enjoy Reddit, get past the fake-post ads, get past all the stupid bells and whistles and flashing awards and whatnot. Without RIF, I can't stomach what Reddit has become.

How Reddit reacted to the 3rd party apps builders also really pissed me off, too. Solidarity to people, not money hungry corp.

I may occasionally go to Reddit via my desktop, to visit some communities that I love. But I'll be reading, not participating.

I hope to find a new nest over here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Killing off third party apps was the straw that broke the camel's back. I still browse Reddit, not gonna lie, but I don't contribute anymore. And my mobile browsing will likely stop entirely once Apollo stops working tomorrow. I'm using Lemmy as a substitute, but also using this whole thing as a general opportunity to use social media less... less time mindlessly browsing reddit, more time doing things I actually enjoy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

If I’m interacting with a business and then that business closes the method I’m using then fuck them I leave. I’ve done it with streaming services as my preferred devices have lost support through upgrades as well and I’ve done it at restaurants for forcing QR code menus.

Two of my three main subs have migrated over here including the whole family of one of them. And once I tried Lemmy I really liked it and support the concepts and philosophy.

So I’ll only go back to the old place to check in on that last main sub periodically until an alternative appears or I talk myself into creating it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Spez and getting rid of 3rd party

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Lemmy is to Reddit what Mastodon is to Twitter so I want to give it a try. I confess I haven't left Reddit but I've certainly lessened my presence including removing their app.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Death of the 3rd party apps. I used to use BaconReader but switched to Sync for Reddit a couple of years ago. Both way above and beyond the official reddit app that's full of bloat and ads (unless you pay for gold).

They really just didn't seem like they were going to bring the functionality of a lot of the 3rd party apps so I can't see myself using their official app long term.

Oh, plus the Sync dev said he is creating an app for Lemmy, which I had never heard of before this, so that's how I found myself here!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My main reason? The administration team, I can understand needing money and wanting to charge for the API services, and while they were higher than normal I would have probably been okay with paying a subscription to help keep the third party app I was using running.

That was until I saw the CEOs response to the development community and anyone who remotely asked about it. That was before he absolutely butchered the ama, and before he slandered one of the largest third-party developers in the community, and then when being called with evidence the bull crap he was spreading instead decided to attack said Community member saying that he didn't realize that it was recorded and that he stands by what he said. That was before he decided to threaten the moderator teams on the platform who may I remind you was working for free as volunteers comparing them to a landed gentry.

It is very clear that what he says publicly is polar opposite of how he administrates, he may say that Reddit is an open Community where the community has final say, but his actions say completely otherwise; it's his way or the highway. And since he is the CEO of the platform I'm choosing the highway and clearly I'm not the only one.

At this point even if he decided to do a complete 180, and made a formal apology to the site and reversed the actions of the API changes(which I personally think financially wise would be unwise they should have funneled it into Reddit Gold somehow) I wouldn't go back, it's clear how the leadership is on the site and quite frankly that's not something I want to contribute to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I haven't officially left yet. I'm using the patched app with Revanced. If that somehow gets nuked though I don't know what I'll do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I've had the patched official app for awhile, but will not be using it right now as a form of protest. I'm still on reddit, but will be sticking to desktop only.

[–] nueromancer 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How's the patched app compared to the official one? Is it same as the official except there is no ads?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Pretty much that exactly. It's not terrible really.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Reddit is no longer accessible through Apollo. That’s really it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Obviously losing the third party apps and spez's lies about the Apollo dev were the big ones, but honestly, I have had negative feelings towards the reddit community for a long time. Everyone is perpetually negative. They seem like miserable people. And the fact that every single comments section was same 3 fucking jokes repeated over and over and over. "I'm grieving my wife who passed away this morning" "I also choose this guy's dead wife." "Hahahahahahahahahahahahalolololoollolololol" "no it's okay, the guy who the original joke is about thinks it's funny, so it's not offensive to say it to this guy."

[–] Hiccup 1 points 2 years ago

Reddit screwed reddit aka reddit fucked reddit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

A less toxic alternative got enough users.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

RiF shutting down, deleted my account on the 12th and cited it in the "why are you doing this?" Section. I doubt it even saw human eyes but if you want something to change you have to be willing to give it up 100%. Anything less and u/spez has already won.

Lemmy.world is a nice place and it's getting pretty big. I hope other instances keep up. I'd enjoy seeing four or five main instances with dozens of smaller ones for specific use cases propping up the content aggregation side of the fediverse into a viable option. Mastodon already has the community size they need to be self sustaining IMO.

Hell if YouTube dumpsters it soon it might actually get the web 3 we really want to see off the ground.

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