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I don't mean to be pessimistic, bit since most subreddits are only going dark for a couple days, the site will basically be back to normal soon. I wonder how many users here are only here because of temporary outrage and not because they actually prefer Lemmy. I'm curious about people's outlook on this situation.

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[–] ndr@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Impossible to say now, but definitely quite a lot of them are not going to be regular users. I still hope/believe the majority will stay though.

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

At the very least the exposure will put Lemmy on the map

[–] BitR1ot@fedia.io 16 points 2 years ago

I have no intention of installing the official Reddit app. I’ve used Apollo for years and I’ll leave once it’s no longer an option. The way Reddit treated the Apollo developer is inexcusable.

I managed to quit Twitter, I’m certain I can quit Reddit too.

[–] panoptic@fedia.io 13 points 2 years ago

No idea - but I actually think the Fediverse concept maps to Reddit way better than it has other social networks so I could see some iteration of this really catching on over time.

For something like Twitter, the whole value proposition is "one big universal conversation" and the federated stuff gets in the way of that a little bit, but Reddit has always been a federation of communities (who occasionally fight, join together, cross post, etc) - that maps really well to this stuff.

[–] ConstipatedFox@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I can guarantee I won't be going back to reddit on mobile if they go ahead with the API changes. I may occasionally use reddit on desktop but 99% of my reddit usage was on mobile via Sync.

Once they get rid of old.reddit (which they inevitably will) that will force my hand and I'll have to fully move to Lemmy. As luck would have it, the developer of Sync is considering re-purposing it to run on Lemmy which would be perfect for me.

[–] SpaceToast@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m hoping Apollo does the same.

[–] atp2112@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And have them blackmail the Fediverse? I think not!

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[–] ulu_mulu@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Probably a good chunk, I don't mean to be pessimistic either but that's how it usually works on "big" movements.

Some people follow the flow because they're caught into the enthusiasm of the moment while not being actually convinced about what they're doing, those people are highly likely to go back when things are back to normal (tho in my opinion reddit will never be "normal" again).

How many they are is impossible to tell.

The blackout is only the first wave, there will be another one IMO when 3rd party apps actually shutdown (June 30th), after that, things will settle and population on lemmy will lower, that's not a bad thing IMO, it doesn't do any good to have people here that don't actually want to be here.

As for me, since I joined I'm doing my best to be involved in lemmy communities with the specific purpose of not missing reddit anymore and not care anymore when they'll break old.reddit (they will like their doing with the API).

I already feel at home here, I'm not going drastic as to nuke my reddit account or anything, tho I'll most probably make a GDPR request and leave for good.

[–] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If there's one demographic of users likely to stick with the fediverse it's going to be redditors.

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[–] CCatMan@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm probably going to start using Reddit again when the blackout ends and keep using it until the end of the month, but once RIF stops working I don't see myself going back. The way I see it, the last couple of days have been a nice stress-test period for Lemmy, but the real exodus will start in July.

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[–] iso@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I will likely go where Reddit Sync goes. I don't really mind if the content here isn't as vast as on Reddit, if I have Sync I have all that I need

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

Doesn't matter, this is how these things gain traction. It's all about trends, especially on social media, baby.

I like it here actually.

If my communities end up dying, then I'll be forced to move back but like I said, I like it here

[–] robocop@fedia.io 4 points 2 years ago

As a near strictly mobile only user of Reddit for nearly 10 years, they have made the decision for me by forcing everyone to use their completely horrible app. On the rare occasions at work that a search result populates with a Reddit result, I'll probably still go there, but using an adblocking browser.

To me it is extremely difficult to justify Reddit actually achieving a worthwhile IPO when their product is reliant 100% on user generated content and volunteer moderation. As an investor, I would be concerned about the longevity of a forum that doesn't have adequate moderation tools, shows hostility against their own userbase, and a complete disregard for their own "AMA rules".

Reddit is dead. They have struck their own final blow.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I don't think the kind of people who are willing to try out some geeky experiment of a social network are totally dependent on Reddit culture.

Exodus from one network to another (or to nowhere) is a thing that's happened in the past, and if anything, people aren't willing to go back once they finally take the effort.

Tho I'm guessing lots of people have multiple accounts such as alts for r34, and may keep using those until Reddit finally shuts off all nsfw.

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[–] thefloatingpoint@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I intend to return after the blackout. At least for the rest of June. It is said multiple times, that this is just the first step for many subreddits.

I will continue using Lemmy and use Reddit only for specific communities. If there is no chance in sight on Reddits behalf, the communities can work on travelling to alternatives properly and this needs time and planing.

As of now, this exodus is more like a panicked escape. At least one community I am from means business and I would like to support them as much as possible.

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[–] kunday@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

It depends on a lot of factors, depends on twitter response and what the mods chose to do about it.

Personally, with the twitter shenanigans, I stopped paying for their blue thing and don’t use it unless someone links to it. So my Twitter usage has down to the floor.

I may take the same approach to Reddit. There is still time to change course, but I’ll go where the crowd goes, and keep tabs on alternatives. I will stop paying for premium and don’t open it as much, and hope Lemmy keeps me occupied enough.

[–] bcbane@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Not going back unless I’m looking for some obscure piece of knowledge. This fulfills my needs for news and conversations about niche topics. Hoping this keeps growing and new mobile apps come out to support it

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[–] planet_barf@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

Personally, I like it here and will probably stick around. I hope the servers can scale, and that new communities grow.

I'll still wind up looking at Reddit for meme content until it turns up here. There's a lack of goofy pointless shit here currently.

[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

For me personally, I'm just here for the ride and I'm curious how things go. On reddit I am only apart of smallish communities and sort by new, so this kinda works even if it's not a bunch of niche subs with stuff I'm into. On reddit I kinda comment and move on, and maybe here I can break the habit of completely ignoring my inbox πŸ˜…

[–] eric5949@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

Depends upon how many people come over here and how much content gets posted. If most communities are ghost towns a lot less people will stay, if it stays interesting more people will stay. Long term depends how quickly devs can catch up in terms of features and user experience.

[–] Tot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It's almost like reddit took a page from the Elon Handbook of Management or something. I think most people will immediately go back to reddit, or try to use both for a bit. People who used something that wasn't the official app may end up here (but maybe not for the same amount of time per day/week/etc).

Whatever it is that reddit wants to monetize about its users via its app specifically is not something I want any part of.

[–] socialjusticewizard@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm sure there will be a huge downtick, but there's also people like me who heard about Lemmy because of Reddit but this is totally something I'd support. Now that I know it's here, I have a source for my cat videos and obscure video game recommendations, I don't really need the activity and tumult of Reddit. I'm sure there are dozens like me. Dozens.

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It depends on how many communities migrate from reddit to lemmy. I will definitely not return to reddit on mobile once third party apps are shut down, but if reddit changes their stance and third party apps come back, I may go back if most of my communities haven’t migrated to lemmy.

[–] 777@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

It depends on whether someone's a member of the community or just because they want to scroll some epic memes. I expect many people are of the latter category and probably don't even understand what the fuss is about.

It's not like I'll never look at Reddit again if there's useful info on it but I won't be part of the Reddit community again after the scorn and disrespect they showed it - I hope to help build something new over here.

I can't do anything about Reddit's decisions but I can vote with my attention and help to build a compelling alternative.

[–] ButterBiscuits@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

The amount of new content I'm seeing every day should prevent some of that.

I'm seriously shocked at how much Lemmy has blown up over the past couple days.

[–] aqua@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Even if I get bored here, I won’t go back.

[–] plisken@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I'm never going back (Besides to delete my account).

Lemmy reminds me of when I first joined Reddit. There isn't a constantly changing frontpage (yet). The communities are smaller, but thats a good thing. I actually want to participate.

I've drunk the koolaid. I'm considering starting an instance for my personal professional community that I lost since the pandemic.

Mastodon didnt click for me, but neither did twitter even in its hey-day. Just not my cup of tea. But Lemmy does.

[–] heartlessevil@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

They're starting by going private for 2 days, but almost unanimously they will continue for longer if reddit doesn't concede. Specifically some of the biggest subreddits like funny and videos, those won't be coming back unless reddit backs off or replaces the moderators.

[–] nickapos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Things will go back to a new normal with a lot more users. Some will remain others will not. Eventually the ecosystem will mature, new apps will be created and more people will move over.

[–] sorrowstouch@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm staying here, the community is way better. I'll use both but only post and comment on Lemmy

[–] Andreas@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah higher population is not always better anyway.

[–] LordPain@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not always better but you need a minimum number of user base to discuss things. I follow subreddits like r/soccer where a lot of discussions take place among fans of different clubs. If there's only 10-15 people discussing it, I might have to stick with reddit :/

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

In such a large sub such as /r/soccer, there must be multiple fascinating discussions and commentary. But ask yourself: are you actually participating in the discussion, or merely observing it?

Yes you can write a comment somewhere high up and hope to get a reply, but your voice is a drop in a sea of endless fans.

In a smaller community, the discussion might not be so top level, but you are forced to think and actively engage more

[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The real test will be when the apps go dark at the end of June.

[–] Matomo@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I feel like that will have more impact than a portion of the subreddits going dark for a few days. People will wait out the protest, and can go back to browsing Reddit again. They have to change something in their flow if they wanna keep using Reddit on their phone, and it's gonna change their experience.

I'm using whatever app/platform can provide in terms of usability and content. Once Boost (or any other third party client) stops working, I'll probably stop using Reddit too.

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[–] chrizbie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm making a commitment to lemmy, I am enjoying it although it does feel a little anemic by comparison to the endless content of Reddit..

It really just depends on how well utilised it is going forward I'm happy to stay here for sure but if it ends up a ghost town then I might drop out of the habit of using it (hopefully not though)

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[–] justalyintometa@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I’ll still always rely on Reddit for obscure answers to questions when googling, but I plan on staying with Lemmy once Apollo is taken down. I’ve been trying it out and adjusting to it during the blackout and as long as the community stays somewhat consistent, I like it here more. Reminds me of when I first joined Reddit over a decade ago.

I usually wont quit an app over changes like this but Reddit to me is different. I like Reddit for being a place to find new communities to join and interact with what’s popular, and since the spez ama and the removal of 3rd party apps I just don’t trust it to stay that way anymore. The last thing I want to see Reddit become is another infinite scrolling content feed that an algorithm thinks you’ll like so you never want to stop scrolling. And I’m assuming since they just want to seek profit that’s what it will eventually become.

[–] SJTheGreat06@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Hmm, well, as for me, I've already deleted my Reddit account, and now I've permanently switched to Lemmy. The community here is genuinely pleasant, unlike the experience I had on Reddit where my questions and comments were often deleted. The people here are not only nice but also genuinely helpful! It's such a delightful place to be, and I feel a strong desire to remain here indefinitely.

I tend to be more of a lurker than an active participant, primarily because I fear that my opinions and views might be suppressed due to internet censorship. However, in this community, I can freely express myself without any apprehension (as long as I adhere to the rules).

[–] Audalin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What will make me return to reading Reddit is all those old posts and comments on very specific topics. It doesn't mean I'll stop using Lemmy (especially if some communities I follow migrate here entirely), but there's no proper replacement for Reddit yet.

Also, I've found no app for Lemmy working on Android 7. For Reddit, I'm using Stealth: it's incredibly useful that you can create multiple pseudo-accounts with different subscription lists and saved posts without ever logging in or having an account. API changes are a sad development, but Stealth has an option to work by scraping old.reddit.com - unless they happen to delete it, of course.

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[–] bardm@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think I'll have a look in a couple of days. But if they go through and kill 3rd party apps that's goodbye from me.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 3 points 2 years ago

Agreed.

Old.reddit is OK on desktop. But on a mobile browser, it is constantly harassing you to the official app, which is absolutely terrible.

When Relay stops working, I don't see myself going back to reddit much at all.

[–] Malintent@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I'm staying; I primarily use Reddit on mobile - once RIF is gone, I'm gone. I am not using the official app even if they pay me.

[–] Lurra@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

I'm staying since Apollo is shutting down. You can't pay me to use that reddit app. Been using Mlem, not bad. I like the whole simplicity of it, reminded me of the old reddit from years ago.

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