this post was submitted on 19 Aug 2023
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think therapy is important.

I'm taking it right now because it's needed and it helps.

My therapist is a leftist and autistic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I agree that therapy is important; it was a hard struggle excruciating at times, but it has helped me to release some of my past trauma. And my last therapist was who pretty much diagnosed me as autistic along with other dx.That was NEVER on the table for the 10 years I had done therapy. Of course they were neurodivergent as well. And that has done a lot for me, although I think sometimes allowing myself to unmask has made things worse in some respects. It's just nice to understand myself better.

BUT, therapy can be extremely damaging for some folks. You may know this, but bipoc people getting paired with shitty white therapists who don't know how to engage in therapy with different communities, therapists with their own baggage, psychiatrists looking to line their own pockets, constant turnover of therapists so people have to relive their trauma over and over....straight up abusive therapists. It can be so difficult to find someone who doesn't just tell you "you need to do breathing exercises" or much, much worse. So I think it's important to be critical of therapy, though it can be life changing when we get someone who is truly in it to help. The way that person framed it did not do that thought service though lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'm aware that it can be damaging for some folks, especially ABA therapy, and the right-wing nature of many therapists.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

Seems like a convoluted form of ablism and perpetuating denial of the existence of mental health issues.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

i think you can make a point about how a lot of therapy can worsen trauma responses by the therapist being really shitty. or a systemic critique of how a lot of therapy is designed to make you feel okay with your material conditions, and those with really really shitty material conditions affecting their mental health can't afford it anyway

probably wouldn't make those points by saying "the wealthy elites like therapy so it bad!!!!!" tho

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

I'm not anti-therapy but pro-better forms of therapy.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They're not wrong about therapy being a barely regulated shitshow full of quacks, junk science, and modalities that just flat out don't work. The discipline definitely needs a thorough purge of anything that can't produce evidence of efficacy. idk what to do about psych wards. I'm not sure it's possible to do anything under the current carceral state and with the general indifference and/or hatred of mentally ill and disabled people.

The "DAE therapy is when billionaires?" is

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah was about to say, a ton of people have been burnt by quack therapists. The solution is obviously not to utilise their services and see proper therapists, but much like chiropractors, quack therapists are everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Chiropractors are all a scam built up the insurance industry

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah they're worse than a scam, they can actually seriously hurt you

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Using therapyspeak to explain why therapy is bad, sweaty.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

"state of the art cancer treatments are also extremely popular among absurdly wealthy celebrities ... what does that tel us about state of the art cancer therapy?"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Wealthy people breathe air surprised-pika

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I can never tell if the posts here are making fun of or agreeing with the screenshots they're posting, I always have to wait for comments to roll in with context. :(

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've read some of this person's stuff on their substack and I don't think that their point is that therapy is bourgeois, even though this tiny bit out of context can seem that way

I think most of us would largely agree with they have to say about how psychiatry is fundamentally a capitalist/colonial institution

My only big critique is that they take their anarchist based thinking to the conclusion of being against "authoritarian" leftists but outside of that, I think they're right for the most part and should be engaged with in good faith

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think they’re a grifter and don’t represent anarchistic views very well.

And do this type of stuff consistently. Have these pretty good critiques of capitalist institutions and then say some absurd stuff and act like the reader should just ignore that part.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah the fact that they don't have a degree in an explicitly psych-related field and have consultation/workshop stuff to buy on the frontpage of their website gives me some grifter vibes or is at least kinda sus

I'm just leery of being overly critical of anticapitalistic POC in majority white spaces since it can be very easy to nitpick someone who is largely right but is missing some fundamental bits

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'm just leery of being overly critical of anticapitalistic POC in majority white spaces since it can be very easy to nitpick someone who is largely right but is missing some fundamental bits

I totally agree with this. It’s this particular person that just frustrates me with these bad takes because they also can be harmful to people who trust their voice and not just an isolated bad take.