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A space for masculine folks to talk about living under patriarchy.

Detoxing masculinity since 1990!

You don’t get points for feminism, feminism is expected.

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  1. Questions over blame
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  3. Wisdom over dogma
  4. Actions over image

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  1. Mistakes should be learning experiences when possible.
    • Do not attack comrades displaying vulnerability for what they acknowledge are mistakes.
    • If you see good-faith behavior that's toxic, do your best to explain why it's toxic.
    • If you don't have the energy to engage, report and move on.
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    • At best, stuff like this is off-topic. At worst, it's reinforcing genders norms..
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*The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity, and Love by Bell Hooks

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Currently taking psychology for gen ed requirements and it’s like 90% girls (judging from the portal pronouns), and next semester and forward my only classes (for now) will be engineering. The upside of STEM classes is that everyone is awkward and usually keep to themselves, but I imagine women in these classes know this and don’t want a bunch of weirdos approaching them.

But anyway, I’d like to accomplish... something. Anything really. I’ve only had few relationships back in high school and they only lasted a few months (usually because people transfer each year). And pretty much all of those times the girls were the one approaching me. But, this is real life and I’m expected to make the first move. I’m fine with that in theory, but I just don’t want to come off as weird or desperate and I don’t really have any precedents to judge my behavior on.

And truthfully, I am terrified of women around my age. I can converse with women like 5+ years older than me, but any girls 3 years older or younger than me I usually hit a brick wall. I’ve had female friends before and never had problems with talking to them since I didn’t have any feelings for them, but everyone in college is just so good looking and experienced I feel like I’m out of their leagues.

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