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I posted this question because I once saw a tweet that said something like:

"If you use adblock, you don't care about creator's point blank"

What is your opinion on this? Do you agree with them?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I use a mix of uBlock Origin and NextDNS to block ads. I would support creators if they or the platform itself can clearly mark which part is an advertisement. I also donate to creators I think are adding value with their contents. Unfortunately, majority of creators aren't being very upfront on whether or not they're sponsored, platforms are mixing advertisements with legitimate contents/results.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I use adblock almost everywhere, except for a few sites with decent ads and creators I support.

Apart from that, I try to support the few creators I appreciate the most in other ways.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Neurological warfare with a side of malware? Where do I sign up

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

yes of course i use adblock it is like the condom of internet at this point.

the money that the creators earn from ads per user is such a low amount that my time and attention are not worth it, like for youtube we are talking $0.001-0.002 per video view for an average creator. it is beneficial for both parties if you simply donate and use adblock.

i also find the data hoarding personalised ad model predatory and privacy invasive

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Lmao yeah uBlock Origin reks the internet fr. After chromium shifts to manifest v3, I'm switching to librewolf and uBlock to retain the same experience I've been having

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

For the longest time I use:

  • for blocking ads: uBlock Origin, Disconnect, Privacy Badger, Ghostery
  • for search: DuckDuckGo
  • mobile ads blocking: AdGuard

I donate or buy merch from creators directly. Many of them voiced that majority of the revenue doesn't come from ads, but from sponsorships and direct donations/purchases.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

@tsukii I don't use adblocker but I use Safing's Portmaster and Vivaldi Browser with built-in ad-and-tracker-blocker enabled plus uBlock Origin - using plus Librewolf as well.


Hope that helps πŸ₯°

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I use AdBlock because I don't want to sacrifice 70% of my viewport to obxonious and intrusive targetted ads. I never click on ads anyway.

As Louis Rossmann said, supporting a creator directly via patreon Kofi or other means has way more impact than watching ads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Ever since my Unifi Dream Machine Pro router was updated with VPN and pihole functionality, I haven't needed to use any adblocking. I can route all my traffic through my home network and it blocks ads in every context, including in apps.

As might be obvious, I completely disagree with the tweet. I hate ads. They're predatory and abusive and they ruin the internet. Anybody who is willing to be responsible with ads has a donate/subscribe option anyway. The auto play video people with dark patterns etc. need to be obliterated. But I probably hate them even less than I hate sites like the New York Times, which charge a subscription fee and then fill their site and apps with ads anyway. Fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I don't use ad blocker while at work, except to block YouTube ads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, I do. And I do since I don't want to watch ads and being interrupted with the video. I also have a sponsorblock extention. I use those since ads are always the same. I know what NordVPN is and I won't sign up for that thing. Also, ad revenue on YouTube is near zero for creators but fir YouTuve itself I imagine it's pretty huge. So I'm bit damaging my creators. If I want to support them, I'd rather sign up for Patreon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I use ublock origin. I don't like the ad model and many ads on the web are privacy invasive. I'm not averse paying for content (something I'm doing for some of it) but I won't watch ads to fund creators.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It's more about the mechanism of ads. If you ever read only a brief summary of Pavlov's work, you will know the difference between the mechanism of brainwashing and ads (which is none). It's not just unethical but borderline dangerous to society. The same with corruption. if you call it lobby and doing it in a suit, it's okay.... I really hope a meteor will come soon, before this shitty human race will be multi-planet trash...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

i block a lot of the excessive tracking, but not all ads specifically. i think its better to not go to the site at all and find a competitor that does not have as many ads. going to the site when you have that bad of an issue with it sends a bad signal to the people running the site.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah I use adblock. Why wouldn't I? Webpages load faster, browsing is safer because I'm not accidentally misclicking on dodgy links, I don't have unnessesary junk in my screen (i already know I'm not interested in 90% of what they're trying to show me, so why bother)...and most of the creators I follow don't care and actually encourage the use of adblocks (instead of, say, calling me a pirate and misusing that word). I'd rather throw on an adblock and throw them a few bucks on thier patreon or donations. They earn more that way than ads anyway

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Ads are mental poison, so yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

If a creator is really useful, I support them directly through donations or paid subscriptions. Other than that, I can't stand ads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

If I really like a creator, I’ll donate to them. Ads are an intrusion on privacy, and everybody has the right to block them without moral backlash.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

If you use adblock, you don't care about creator's point blank

This sounds a lot like not tipping being a bad thing.

Ads and tipping denigrate my daily experience. So I'm not going to suffer either.

Blocking ads is also just more secure as it's a vector for so many exploits.

In conclusion, I don't agree with them at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I turn it off on YouTube after I saw they rolled out the content blocking expedient for ad block users. But for everything else I leave it on, except twitch because the twitch community already get shafted by the 50/50 split.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

yes :) if i like something, i will pay for it. as opposed to giving google 97% of the creator’s ad revenue

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Yes, because most sites are completely unreadable without it. I also don't want to be loading megabytes of garbage with all the ads, trackers, and whatever other shit people stick on commercial websites nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every so often I try seeing if I can do without adblock. But man, the distraction, and the CPU usage, and the malvertising, ...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That CPU usage is real. Been using adblock for a long time privately. Got a new work computer without adblock and goddamn the fan goes crazy just browsing simple sites with text (likely the movement in ads, if not all the trackers and JavaScript that is being loaded in the background). I also feel like getting dumber just seeing the damn things, they sure know how to attract attention and I feel duped each time my eyes are drawn to one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@tsukii I don't, because TROMJARO do everything fir me.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

I don't, because I know that ads are part of free content "agreement"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

i do not use adblock on content creation sites like youtube

its a small effort for what i assume is a small bit of support for the content im watching

i just never had an issue with ads, theyre unobtrusive and i can just do something else while theyre playing

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

I do everything under the sun pretty much. Ublock origin, NoScript, chameleon extensions on Librewolf (and others). I β€œsubscribe” to YouTube channels via rss feeds. Open up the newsboat feed reader from my terminal and an extension called β€œAlter” redirects me to an invidious instance. NoScript blocks everything pretty much as I just need the url. Then I use yt-dlp with the sponsorblock flag.

I only visit YouTube when I have a bunch of new β€œsubs” that I found through word of mouth (reading blogs, HN, Mastodon, Lemmy, etc). I could just use invidious rss feeds, but if the instance goes down I would have to start all over again. There are other ways of achieving this same effect, but this is how I choose to consume yt now.

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