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With the billionaires backing him, it's going to be on us as individual Americans to make sure Trump doesn't end up in the White House again. That means not just voting but talking with people around you, volunteering and donating

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[–] [email protected] 166 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Our bosses donate our stolen wages to Trump because if justice is on the market then anything, further, goes.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

And they are so damned short sighted.

Trump wants to be Putin.

He wants his half of the US economy. Including half of what they have now.

And they fund him while being obsessed with the pennies he will save them.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

You bet your ass. And then they tell their underpayed staff that it’s the dems fault.

Crooks.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I remember when, if a former president and current major party nominee for the next presidential election was a convicted felon, that person's political career would be over.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean, Howard Dean talked into an unadjusted microphone one time. That's totes just as bad.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Didn't Kerry lose in part for looking like a dork in a tank?

https://fortune.com/2016/03/08/michael-dukakis-john-kerry-7-political-gaffes-mitt-romney-the-course-of-u-s-history/

I have a feeling, these events were just things the media could use to manipulate the narrative on the Democratic candidate, otherwise would've been ignored.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also, the "liberal media" seemed to really play that up. IIRC, there are some questions about just how loud his whoop really was.

Also, though: he is a Democratic candidate. None of this applies to the cons. The way things are conducted by the liberal media are that everyone affiliated with the Democratic Party must be as pure as the driven snow, not look silly, make zero gaffes, and so on (and even then - what was said of Hillary was that she was "overprepared" - wtaf - so even when Democrats don't violate the rules, they'll make up a new set of criteria that Democrats have supposedly violated to play the 'both sides" card). Republicans can do just whatever the fuck they want; it's expected that they'll be off the rails; cons will be cons and all that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

HYAAAAAHHH!!!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The wild part is that Trump isn't the only candidate with a felony conviction: Kennedy has one for heroin

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

It turns out it was the brain worm who did all that heroin....

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We've fallen so far. We've created an environment where people can create their own realities and make up things they want to believe, and ignore the facts that are presented to them as "rigged". There is no Truth anymore

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no Truth anymore

The fuck there isn't. There's just a whole lot of people who are willfully ignoring it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I probably should have made it more explicit, there are no more consensus Truths. For example, we actually have people who think the world is flat

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That was always the case.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

YeeeAAAaahhh

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That means not just voting but talking with people around you, volunteering and donating

Honestly, I give up. If you've already decided you're voting for Trump, you do not exist in the same reality as me. There is absolutely zero redeeming quality about the person or his politics. He literally does not care about the United States, the Constitution, or the people voting for him. A vote for Trump isn't a vote for president, it's a vote for a cult leader. I'm not equipped to fix what's broken in your head.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Some day we're going to find out the entire Republican Party was co-opted by a geopolitical rival, and once they got enough traction, they just need to hit the gas every once in a while and we do the rest to ourselves.

The only way we can truly have a democracy is by containing the income gap, which we have utterly failed to do since the 80's. The wealthy aren't part of our world. The truths which dominate our lives simply aren't true for them. The idiom is "death and taxes" but the truth is it's just death.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

We know they were, it's Russia, they've been co-opted by Russia. We've been screaming it from the mountaintops since 2015, Donald Trump is a stooge for Putin and has infected the rest of the party. Nobody cares.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

The wealth gap is certainly an issue. Typically, Americans are more prosperous under Democratic presidents and while that may be true on paper in select areas, it's apparent that most people are still hurting. On paper, Biden has been a remarkable president and has saved Americans billions if not trillions. Saving money is different than putting money in their pockets though. To say, yeah - but it could have been so much worse, means nothing to most people.

I'm not sure how this played out but there was a plan...

A study by the liberal Institute of Taxation and Public Policy predicts Mr. Biden's plan would increase by more than $100,000 a year what someone in the top 1% of earners pays Uncle Sam. President Obama in 2013 raised taxes on that same group by $83,000. President Trump in 2017 cut their taxes by about $50,000 a year.
The top 1% of Americans earn about 20% of all income in the U.S., but they pay nearly 40% of all federal income taxes. The Biden plan will put even more of the tax burden on the wealthy. "It's time for corporate America and the wealthiest 1% of Americans to just begin to pay their fair share," he said Wednesday in his speech to Congress.

And wages are up compared to inflation for the past year. But eventhough inflation is still at a comfortable-ish sub 4%, the future looks questionable.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/

But to the greater point, when people are struggling to put food on the table and upgrade appliances or save for the future, they're going to get stressed. They're going to become afraid and they're going to search for answers - even if those answers are wrong, it's what they want to hear. Keeping this wage gap wide, keeping the middle class down, gives politicians power.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I would have thought your someday was when a bunch of them went to Russia for the Fourth of July.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The convincing needs to be aimed at people who don't vote, of which there is an absurd amount, particularly among young people. Trump could be prevented if people on the left vote en masse, and perhaps even gain strong majorities in both houses.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not in the US, so maybe I'm wrong on this, but I would imagine trump has pushed a lot of people who would have voted republican into non voters. These would be the group I would be having conversations with, trying to convince them that voting democrat is a bigger protest than abstaining, and to do anything else is to risk an anti democratic felon becoming president.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That certainly seems reasonable and maybe you're right.

For similar reasons, people are (rightfully) protesting Biden due to his policies with Gaza. I know that in the presidential primary in my (super blue/Democrat) county last month, 10% of the votes cast by Democrats (16,216) were write-ins and 90% of those (14,625) were for non-people ("uncommitted", etc). As it turns out, practically the same number of people cast protest votes as votes for Trump (14,740). Biden still got 144,000 votes so losing 14,000 to Trump isn't so much of a concern. My greater concern is about how easily people are being manipulated - across the board, across the world - and how people are losing sight on the possible crumbling of the country they live in. Not to mention only 20% of my county even bothered to vote.

Totally unrelated.. actually, maybe not totally, this conversation has me going back and checking on some voting records. The 2020 election was the highest voter turnout in Philadelphia for 25 years. It was also the highest turnout in the United States for a century. So when Trumpers claim 'the election was rigged because Trump got more votes than any other president. How is it possible for Biden to get more votes than him?', they're ignoring the verifiable facts that the election had a record high turn out. It's been all downhill since they've been denying these election results.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well yeah, him being in more debt means he is more for sale

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Fun fact if you go to join the police in the UK they will check how much debt you have as you’re more likely to be open to bribes etc.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd love to read a breakdown of how American culture got here. Outside of Trump a section of America just loves a grifter / cult leader. From Elon Musk to leaders of mega churches, there are just Americans seemingly willing to be conned.

Of course this is true in all cultures but America appears to execute grift to maximum profitability. Mega church pastora with 6 jumbo jets, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Culturally, we also sadly don't seem to have many other measures of success aside from wealth, and a poor social support structure that requires people to seek out their own forms of support. Add in the pervasiveness of the "prosperity gospel", where the more good you are, the more money you have, and people flock to these conmen because they can't possibly believe someone that wealthy could be bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Seems like most Americans are attracted to extremes of all sorts, so extremists thrive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Because they are evil and cynical?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Donald Trump is the first sitting or former president to be convicted of a felony in U.S. history, after a jury ruled that he falsified business records to cover up a sex scandal with a porn star that could have sunk his 2016 campaign.

David Sacks, the venture capitalist who will co-host a San Francisco fund-raiser for Trump next week, called it a “sham trial” and said that the former president had lots of supporters in the tech world who were afraid to admit it.

Ron DeSantis of Florida, and die-hard critics of Biden like Elon Musk slammed the trial, with the tech entrepreneur saying the ruling damaged the “public’s faith in the American legal system.”

Skydance is now viewed as the front-runner in the race to merge with Paramount, which owns MTV, CBS and the movie studio behind “Top Gun,” after Sony and Apollo backed away from a rival $26 billion bid.

Shares in chipmakers Nvidia and AMD fell in premarket trading following a Bloomberg report that the Biden administration was slowing the licensing of high-end chips to the region for fears they could fall into the hands of Chinese companies.

Earlier this week, Lenovo, the Chinese tech company, said it would sell $2 billion worth of bonds to Saudi Arabia’s sovereign wealth fund and build a research and development hub in Riyadh.


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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Given Trump's track record for keeping contracts, let alone promises, I doubt he has a good track record with returning favors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The dude’s been on borrowed time for years now. His heart’s gotta give out any second. I guess they just want an R win, regardless of who gets it for them.

[–] KairuByte 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can’t not see that as a picture of him air dicking.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's him with Putin and Murdoch

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They are worried that if Trump can experience justice they might just be next.