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[Not the Onion] In Defense of Punching Left (hexbear.net)

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In Defense of Punching Left

I'm a liberal. I've always been a liberal...

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"Don't punch left" is the core tenet of Solidarity, a new book by Astra Taylor and Leah Hunt-Hendrix. In a laudatory interview with the Washington Post, Hunt-Hendrix said the book was aimed not only at progressives in general but also specifically at liberals who criticize the left, naming me and newsletter author Matthew Yglesias as "falling into the right's divide-and-conquer strategy."

I read a couple more paragraphs and I had to stop. I forgot what a terrible writer he is. The article is like reading a textbook that lectures you.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It would surprise any liberal to learn we have no desire to redistribute wealth, tackle climate change, or advance social justice and care only about corporations and the status quo.

Then what are you doing?

When every cause is framed as a matter of absolute moral urgency, which is the lingua franca of protest politics, then no compromise can be brooked.

yes-comm

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When every cause is framed as a matter of absolute moral urgency, which is the lingua franca of protest politics, then no compromise can be brooked.

That was also quoted in the r/Enough_Sanders_Spam thread. What a odd sub that is. It's like I put on "They Live" glasses and all the comity and civility and the rest of the superficial façade of liberals is stripped away and I can see who they really are.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Compromise fetishists, with their Henry Clay shrines or whatever, never seem to grasp that if you're not at the table you're on the menu. They like to bring up environmentalism vs. construction, as if the compromise is merely between supporters of the Nature Team and the Development Team, rather than, say, communities who don't want be poisoned and the corporations that want to poison them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You're telling me the poison people might like development under different circumstances?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Wealth redistribution is socdem nonsense designed to have a better capitalism.

Tackle climate change

While wanting to preserve the market economy. They probably think it's doable, but if you understand capitalism and the bourgeois state you know it's not.

advance social justice

What does this mean? They can move the goalposts as far as they want and claim they achieved it. Useless category.

care only about corporations

Yes, I know. You like the petty bourgeois too! How nice of you. Fuck off.

and the status quo.

See "social justice" above. They do like the state, capitalism and everything that entails. You are the status quo. The only reason you claim not to be is to differentiate yourself from other supporters of capital.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

I fucking hate liberals

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"In Defense of Punching Liberals"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

glasses-on PUT ON THE GLASSES
nazi-punching biden-fall

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

hehe...

I'm trying to work my way through Lenin's "What is to be Done". If I'm understanding it so far, it starts out heavily criticizing opportunists and the idea of "freedom of criticism" in the context of members of an organization being wreckers.

What a wacky coincidence...

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

♪♪♪ Sure, once I was young and impulsive
I wore every conceivable pin
Even went to socialist meetings
Learned all the old union hymns
Ah, but I've grown older and wiser
And that's why I'm turning you in
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal ♪♪♪

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh, Jonathan Chait likes charter schools. He says so in this terrible article. Well, he doesn't seem to want to use the phrase "charter schools", instead just talking repeatedly about "school reform". Which is indeed a euphemism for wanting charter schools, as I had to click a link to learn.

Why use a euphemism here? Why not just say you're in favor of charter schools? Is he embarrassed about it? But then why say anything at all? I'm puzzled

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why use a euphemism here?

I'll assume you're serious. His wife is very pro-charter schools and people always needle him about that on Twitter so he's always very evasive on that topic.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But then why ever talk about it at all? He didn't need to bring it up in this article. I dunno, I'm sure I'll never get a satisfying answer. Probably even Jonathan Chait doesn't understand why he does the things that he does

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

But then why ever talk about it at all?

He can't help it. He's a self-righteous prick.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Jonathan Taint.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Jonathan "bofa deez commie nuts moist boi" Chait

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I find it hard to consider Yglesias even a liberal, he's just the world's most bloodless fascist (and yes, this is coming from the perspective of somebody who is fully aware that liberalism is a bourgeois, right wing ideology). I do not know this dweeb, but when anybody finds it fitting to name him alongside that dingus, i think i'm better off not knowing.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I welcome this, actually. More people should learn the distinction between liberals and leftists

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Johnathan Shite kelly

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

People who know Rosa. seen-this-one

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

geordi-no Punching left

geordi-yes Punching left

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How tf do people read this, subject matters aside it's just so boringly written from sentence to sentence, it feels like he's literally just typed out white noise

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

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