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Why lemmy.world should not defederate from beehaw.org. (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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What defederating would mean:

We won't see beehaw.org posts/comments on other instances.

Pros:

There is less confusion, you can't respond to a beehaw.org user, thinking they will be able to see your response when in reality they cannot.

Cons:

We won't be able to see any beehaw.org comments/posts on other instances, so we will miss out on some comment threads and posts. It could be good to be able to see them and interact with the other users there even though beehaw.org users won't see any of our content.

Summary

Overall, I think it is better not to defederate, but simply unsubscribe from all of their communities (and as we no longer get posts from their instance, with time these will cease to appear on our 'front page').

beehaw.org users already can't see our posts/comments anywhere so it's not like defederating would change their experience in any way, so it wouldn't really be retaliation and would just limit the content available to lemmy.world users.

What do you think?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Work with the other instances first. Try to find a compromise. This should be done as a very, very last resort. And that’s not the impression I’m getting at all. Just a pain in the ass for users, and barely a hurdle for troll, which I’ve not seen much of on the first place.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This whole defederation situation seems like putting the power in the hands of the wrong people.

Users should choose what they want to see/interact with. Maybe subs/mods. Not entire servers imho.

If certain subs on beehaw want to restrict access, fine because users choose to participate. If users want to restrict themselves or control their own experience, fine because it only impacts them. But when it's done at a server level you have given too much power to people that aren't part of your community.

Or maybe I'm wrong.. I'm new

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I’m not sure we will be able to read beehaw comments & posts, see :

https://lemmy.world/post/149743

or :

https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/24341/How-the-beehaw-defederation-affects-us

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or... here's a wild idea... let instances do what they want?

If an instance wants to act the fool or allow trolls to overrun their space, then another instance can choose to not want anything to do with it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They can do what they want though. But so can lemmy.world

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So what happens to the major communities like technology? Are we creating a new one here, or subscribing to a different instance version?