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Other philosophy communities have only interpreted the world in various ways. The point, however, is to change it. [ x ]

"I thunk it so I dunk it." - Descartes


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Too bad the :libertarian-approaching: answer to the question of "why do we obey the legal fiction that is money" is "time to make a worse money!" :cryptocurrency: :dumpster-fire:

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Going backwards through these and some of them are just so damn good, like I love https://existentialcomics.com/comic/490

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Did anyone listen to the podcast episode he links at the bottom? Is it a simplistic but convincing introduction to socialist thought or am I just easily taken in because I already agree with the premise?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So, historically... a couple of points.

  1. Pharaohs would regularly begin the commission and construction of their tombs long before they died.

  2. The deification of the Pharaohs was an extension of the civil legal system and theocratic underpinning of Egyptian leadership, so surviving Priests and future Pharaohs have a vested interest in maintaining the symbols of authority constructed by prior generations

  3. The construction of the pyramids was at once a public works project, a social credit system, and an artisanal patronage system. Egyptian taxation and expenditure during rich years afforded the government opportunities to build up surplus to distribute during leaner years. Large scale construction projects were a kind of emergent jobs system and a means of cultivating an artisanal class which had knock-on effects that benefited Egyptians outside the vanity projects of the national leaders.

None of that is to say Egyptians could not have leveraged the bureaucracy of the Pharaohs for a purpose more socially beneficial than the construction of giant tombstones. But to claim these constructions occurred purely at the stated whims of dead people is a huge mistake.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think he is making a point about today, and not the actual production of the pyramids.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think there are parallels between the Pharaoh's pyramids and the modern luxury economy or military economy.

Hell, you could compare it to the modern commercial real estate economy. Why do we insist on building out new Mega-Malls and steel-glass skyscrappers in an era when that mode of development is past the point of profitability? Only because we still have large and well-connected coalitions of investors, managers, and workers who benefit from construction as well as a base of supporters that continue to believe these symbols of prosperity are desirable even when the attendant long-term social benefits aren't forthcoming.

Case in point, Austin is building multiple 100+ story towers in an era when the city physically can't move people into and out of the downtown area in any kind of efficient manner. Why are we building these behemoths when "nobody" wants them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yea I think that’s the punch lines point. That pro-capital economists are religious rather than analytical.

We might be more analytical, we might have more wit, but my god we can’t meme.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

my god we can’t meme.

:debate-me-debate-me:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the joke is that neoliberals are grossly incompetent even compared to a theocracy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

ancient egypt lasted thousands of years neoliberalism has been around for less than an century and is starting to fall apart

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

tbf, "Ancient Egypt" is not a monolith, no matter how many obelisks it built.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It's like when an old :lmayo: movie sums up a location as "ASIA."