Bloat taking up disk space doesn't really matter. Bloat taking up RAM/CPU can affect performance on the other hand.
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Wasted performance large scale means wasted resources large scale, like CO2 emissions, energy costs, and hardware that would not be needed without
Somebody please do the math which shows the global delta of CO2 related arch vs Ubuntu bloat. I need to know exactly how many dozens of minutes of vespa usage this is equivalent to per year when taken globally.
Better yet, I need to know how much the global CO2/Water use delta is between the most bloated Linux (mint?) and your average Windows 11 install. Windows 11 phones home for so much bullshit all the time, it'd be good for a laugh.
And here I am, shuddering in disgust at the thought of a Windows 11 phone.
I'm concerned with the CO2 usage on the constant churn of rebuilding packages, transferring and installing them on all the computers running Arch. I want to know the climate impact of rolling distros!
It should be noted that if the bloat is having to load from said disks frequently, it can lead to premature failure of SSDs, and also if itโs hitting them while youโre trying to load other files, it does also affect performance that way.
But yeah, Iโm more concerned with the other resources.
I believe SSDโs donโt actually experience wear when reading data, only when writing. Loading more data from SSDโs shouldnโt cause any premature failure. Overwriting more data each update could cause the drive to fail slightly earlier, but if thatโs really that big of a concern, youโd be best of moving to Debian stable (no updates means no SSD writes).
If SSD wear prevention is really that big of a concern, you might be interested in profile-sync-daemon (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Profile-sync-daemon). It reduces writes to hard drives by keeping your browser profile in RAM, and only periodically syncing it to disk.
Though I must add that SSDโs wearing out really isnโt that much of an issue with modern drives. With normal usage, a drive will become obsolete long before it actually wears out.
The weirdos crusading against bloat helped keep distros light weight and performant decades on. It allowed a linux distro to fly on older hardware that was bogged down by newer linux versions. The legacy to this day is that WMs like KDE can actually be fairly light weight and there is still attention paid to not using a lot of resources.
Nowadays I feel like the complainers dont even have a consistent definition of what bloat is and it ranges from command line only users who know theyre crazy and niche but speak up anyway, to people who are just upset if a distros ships with basic default tools like an image viewer or something that opens text files or videos, or drivers.
The whole thing is also silly with how much cheaper ram and storage have gotten. Even moreso because the distro and WM isnt the limiting issue. Yes you can still run a KDE based distro with 2gigs of ram, but as soon as you open your web browser and visit the modern internet the dozen high definition images that load in and videos and javascript.
If all the bloat means that both the Wifi AND the external screen AND the touchpad work out of the box SIMULTANEOUSLY, go for it.
Most of that is in the kernel anyways.
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Great video, but could've been uploaded to peertube ๐
P.S ubuntu is no more bloated than windows or mac. Probably less so
Would it maybe be easier to put that license in your "about" section instead of at the end of your comments? Or does it not work like that
It's for AI training. They scape entire comments. Putting it outside of the comments will thus not make it show up in the training data. If they add license stripping to training data, it makes things more difficult but probably more questionable on their end, maybe even possibly illegal. It will come down to detection and enforcement.
Finally, years after they've mostly gone away, a good use for those signature blocks forums would offer!