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Linus' thread: (CW: bigotry and racism in the comments) https://social.kernel.org/notice/AWSXomDbvdxKgOxVAm (you need to scroll down, i can't seem to link to the comment in the screenshot)

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can relate to the "how the fuck is being a concerned human being extreme/poltical?" energy in the post hard.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Hate is mainstream politics now, sadly. So yes, not hating is political as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

That's what "being political" means. Otherwise you'd be apathetic, cynical and not concerned about anything.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Political? For everyone outside of America that's just common sense.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In Canada it’s starting to become “political” since our morons are egged on by the morons down south.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's so exhausting, they treat it like a sport, it's not about making anyone's lives better it's all just about their team winning

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Hello I'm a trans person from the UK here to tell you this is sadly not the case at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Politics used to be something people engaged in. Now politics is the core to a lot of people's identities, which means disagreement or debate is perceived as a personal attack and people will embrace a tremendous amount of cognitive dissonance to avoid being wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Holy shit a based Linus is not what I expected to see today. Makes me prefer Linux even more than I already did.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What would you use for a synonym for based? I keep seeing that used. I always thought it was just some alt-right meme bullshit, but I'm learning I was wrong. I still don't get the use. My mind always thinks "based on what?"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"Based" is typically used to describe someone who says/does something without caring if they'll be judged for it. Most commonly, it's shorthand for "That's a controversial opinion and you are bold for saying it, but I agree with you." It turns the previous sentence into an adjective, which is a little weird but it makes sense eventually.

So if I had to choose a single word as a synonym, I would say "Bold".

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Linus gives exactly zero fucks about saying exactly what's on his mind. And it's almost always massively based. He's always been great about that, we don't deserve such a great mind.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Remember the time with the anti vaxxer, man was firing with all cylinders

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

This is one of the reasons why I respect him so much.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

FOSS is an active political statement!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Was just coming here to say that. The entire Ethos of Open Source is basically the people owning the digital means of production. So some people really not grasp that?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This fact eludes some folks.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

I half agree with his gun regulation stance. While ideally there would be more caution given to who owns guns that is unfortunately not the world americans have been living in the last 80 years or so. The fascists have guns, lots of them, and I'm not giving mine up while they have them.

Everything else he said is 100% based.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah the gun law regulators generally ignore the fact that everyone and their grandma already has guns. And those with guns are not willing to do trade in programs.

I’d like to see better psych eval and requiring to re-license every so often. That should start steering the country in the right direction. Of course I don’t see this happening any time soon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, yeah, fascists having guns is a "randomly giving guns to any moron with a pulse" problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

When you're in power, the fascists are the "morons with a pulse" who don't get guns, but when they're in power, YOU'RE the moron with a pulse who loses your ability to defend yourself. The point is to remove the ability of the authorities to decide who gets the right to own weapons, because it can easily be turned against you. Besides, morons obtain weapons illegally all the time. Firearms ownership is illegal in my country (except for licensed use like hunting) but we still have problems with gun violence because of weapons trafficking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I do think it is funny that there is significant overlap between the ACAB crowd and those that would want to disarm (or at least heavily restrict) the average Joe so only police have access to modern firearms

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Linus is stellar example of "good is not nice."

He will rake you over the coals because he cares about quality and expects better from everyone.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Linus has always been political and principled, I mean he chose the GPL for a reason! Glad to see him state all of this outright though, it only makes me respect him more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

lol i read gun regulation as pro-gun.

glad to be proven wrong :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Woman right to choose, fair enough. Regulated guns, absolutely. The less guns the better. Gay people stuff, I couldn't care less. Check.

The man said it as it should be said.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Hard fisagree. Linux isn't political. Everyone has an opinion, it's obvious Linus would too. But I am pretty happy that his opinion is one I personally agree with. Linux can be uaed by anyone though, and nothing stops far right activists (terrorists) from making a distro, which would still be Linux. There's a heavily religious distro too, but that doesn't make Linux as a whole religious.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every human opinion is essentially "political" in some way, and is even interpreted differently be country? But open source software as a technology should not be taking any stance for or against gender, guns, rights, race, etc...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Well, it's not any official statement by the Linux Devs as a collective.

It's simply the personal opinion of Linus - who also happens to be the person who created Linux and still manages it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

After being disappointed by Steve, Linus lifted my spirits.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Did you know that linux kernel source code was leaked to the public? Go see for yourself how political it is!

/s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (9 children)

One great thing about about software is you don't have to agree with or care about what the creators thoughts and beliefs are, software is at the end of the day just software.

Doesn't get any less political than that.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (11 children)

I don't see how his, very reasonable, views makes Linux itself (more?) political. What is the point of this post?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don’t think the title is good, but I do think it’s notable to some extent. With people having weird, shitty opinions, it’s nice to see someone who is relatively famous in the tech community for having somewhat sane opinions and being vocal about it.

In my experience, the Linux community has got its own bunch of free speech weirdos who would reject some of these political points (especially the trans position), so I do think in that context it is kind of important.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The man can say what he wants and it's nothing to do with Linux. And, his gun stance seems fair to me. I think he is an intelligent man, and I think he's allowed to say his thoughts without some lame arse trying to tie his ideals to the OS. Move on, nothing to see here.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

social.kernel.org : one should migrate to lemmy :°

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Holy fuck, I love that guy even more now. I didn't know that was possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

And he's right!

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