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I've heard of things like iPostal and Traveling Mailbox. Do these services allow you to register with bank, DMV, IRS, Voting, etc? How do they work? Would a normal P.O box using its physical address from USPS work? I've tried researching it and haven't gotten clear answers.

I don't want to show up on those whitepages sites with all my information on them. I want to stop it from the start.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Banks require a physical address, that's part of basic KYC (know your customer) requirements and part of anti money laundering / anti terrorism funding laws.

So they won't accept P.O. boxes. While those mail forwarders can work, some will also blacklist them over time.

And really, ask yourself the question if you want your cards, PIN, and general correspondence about your finances mailed to a random third party where some underpaid person opens up and scans your letters all day...

Not quite sure what you mean with whitepages btw., your bank is not signing you up anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

If you own a home, your address is already a matter of public record.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sounds like instead of the whitepages, you'll end up on an FBI list.

/s sorry for the non-answer...I dont really have any practicle advice beyond being careful you don't end up suspected of criminal activity. Your privacy will really go down hill if the gov. is actually paying attention to you.

[–] Mugmoor 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're this concerned, why are you using a bank at all? You strike me as a cash under the mattress type.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Dude I just don't want my name, phone number, and address all over the public web. Why am I getting so much hate for this?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It won't be, at worst it will be passed around a bunch of marketing companies sending you a bunch of pointless junk mail. And that's really only if you go to a shitty bank.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That's entirely reasonable and I totally agree with you, however banks are pretty tightly regulated and can't give away or sell customer information. Much higher likelihood it's an app on your phone that's been harvesting your data to a broker, or your data was aggragated from a breach and sold.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Because not giving the bank your contact information will accomplish exactly nothing to that affect, and it makes you sound delusional and paranoid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think this question generates so much hate because it makes the privacy-concerned audience realize there is actually little hope for privacy in our society in its current state.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I believe it is illegal to misrepresent your permanent residence to your bank.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Tell them you’re homeless. Put your address as “No fixed address” and use Post Restante — also known as General Delivery.

If they make a fuss and demand a home address, reiterate that you’re homeless and demand that they provide you with a home. Worked for me (when I actually was homeless) for a few years.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Wait till you learn about phonebooks, the OG white pages. I don’t think banks are the source of the info that appears on the ‘white pages’ type sites.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Those info sites aren't built from bank records. They're built from public records databases like voters, property, taxes, legal cases, and government actions, including stuff like just showing up to the city council to complain.

You could conceivably open an account in another country where they're very private about banking info, but it wouldn't help your case, and it would probably be a huge hassle for your day to day life.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What you are likely referring to is a "nomad" residence. There are some states that allow this, such as Florida. There is a process to getting this status and you would want to do that before opening a new account in that state.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn't filing for nomad residence when you have an actual residence be fraud?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You are not defrauding anyone. Plus there is a legitimate process to go through to establish nomad residency. It creates a valid residential address.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I had to change my address to my physical address from a PO Box in the first week of the year to prevent my account getting closed. This was with a major bank, and it's all thanks to the patriot act. Then again, I do have a checking account with a much smaller bank and they haven't said a word about it. I use the street address with a "unit number" for my box. Seems like they either haven't dug into it and realized it's a PO Box or they're just small enough where they don't care much about it like the big banks. So basically, you need a physical address these days, if you don't you risk account closure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I mean I could try not using a big bank. Thanks for that. I'll see how moving over to a small bank goes using a usps p.o box.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the eternal solution to privacy concerns: pyramid schemes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I mean, for the discerning gentlemen scared of their own shadow knowing their general location, I'd say it's right up their alley.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

You either get paid in cash or get physical checks and cash them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I see this kinda of lunacy here frequently: privacy is important but you have to exist on paper in some fashion to make it in society.

The bank has to have your information. That’s how it works.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Do you have an address? Or are you moving around? A PO box is good for people who don't stay in one place very long, but want to receive mail. Whether you can use that at the bank, the dmv, the IRS, or voting depends entirely upon which state you live in.