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Do people actually like all of the overdesigned clutter to the point where it makes them not want to switch sites?

To me, the stripped down clarity on Lemmy is a feature. I remember back in the day when people flocked to Facebook from MySpace, in large part because they were sick of eye gouging customized pages and just wanted a simple, consistent interface. The content, not the buttons to click on it are the draw right?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (9 children)

its beautiful. i used to read reddit through redreader. simple is good. is there any good lemmy app? im new here :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Jerboa is the way to go. Many other apps are in development for Lemmy as well. Sync, thunderbolt, lemmur revival, and plenty others I've seen. Jerboa is the best working one atm.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Ah, a preview of people defending Reddit for removing old.reddit eventually.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I use a grease monkey script to make it basically identically to old Reddit. It’s wonderful. Highly recommended

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, I'm over here writing CSS to remove junk (avatar icons, sidebars, etc) from Lemmy pages because it's not text-only enough.

It's cool that others like a fancier view. I want it to be almost nothing but text.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Was using Lemmy on my phone via browser, and I darn near swooned at how clean and tidy and useable it was.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't worry. Those are the people that joined Reddit late (in the last few years) and came from other social media platforms (like Facebook). I think Lemmy is safe for a long while at least.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

You can skin and theme an instance however you want, and the lemmi-ui code is open source so you can completely customize that side of things too. It's a complete non issue the instant someone with design capabilities contributes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think critiques are pretty helpful in the early stages of growth. There's several little UI/UX tweaks we can do to make these places feel more inviting.

Lots of people are listing bug reports or submitting PRs, I've got one going that'll add your profile image next to your name, something simple but nice to have.

image

With time these sites are all going to shine :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I’d rather see avatars removed entirely.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

The basic platforms are more successful. They are faster and less user hostile.

old.reddit.com Hacker News Old Digg Old Fark

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is an actual use case for 'the customer is always right'. No matter how much you prefer the layout, there will be others that prefer something else. And if we want to attract more users, that's something that we'll need to consider.

By far the most off-putting thing about lemmy is how people think themselves too good to consider the preferences and experiences of the average user coming from reddit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Personally, I love the clutter-free design of lemmy.world it's a good mix of looking pretty without being too empty.

That being said, this is a refreshing take after reading through some of the top comments. I wish more people were a little more level-headed like this.

Maybe there could be other instances with different themes that appeal more to the casual reddit user? I'm still not sure how the themes work when it comes to Lemmy and its instances.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Are those points meant to be bad things?

Using Kbin, and the default minimalistic design with everything in discrete text-boxes reminds me much more of older forum's than Reddit ever did. I like it!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

This is exactly the type of complaint that someone who babbles on about UI Aesthetics, Voice of the Customer and NPS.

Aka, Reddits marketing team.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

You had me at dark grey and blue

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Coming from apollo i could agree it could look alot better but its still miles above the native reddit app.

I don’t quite understand how we cant use kbin style on the rest of lemmy. Or hexbears super nice looking theme which is a fork of lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

It's FOSS so someone will probably make what they want, if they just give it a sec to appear for free out of thin air then they'll have to come up with another excuse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

i agree. the only reason why i hae accounts on shit like this is to prepare for the VERY VERY MINISCULE chance that reddit will shut down due to them making shit decisions.

bring back css for every community

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy clients could definetly benefit from more customization options. Let everyone have it as they want.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Just wait till they have to use the reddit app only. Plus if these people want to they can invest there time and run a Lemmy instance. Develop their own tools to make it look the way the want. Rather than complaining about free too hosted freely by people who care.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

The content, not the buttons to click on it are the draw right?

I agree. The content is key.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

People saying these things are the summer children of the internet. They are innocently naive and simply don't understand what they saying.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

All the real ones came from old.reddit anyway. Honestly with the amount of projects I see being started for these platforms I'd be surprised if we don't eventually see customization option updates from instances to communities. That complaint has an expiration date IMO.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

They are kinda right though. An appealing design is important for many people. (Except for some reason people involved in opensource and linux stuff... fite me!)

Also a nicer design doesn't mean that it will be cluttered. You're just creating a strawman there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lol. They should've seen how I used to browse Reddit. White text on black background only.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

No. I like functionality, I don't care how it looks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I like a simple design. Lemmy is simple.

I do think there's opportunity to refine the UI. Doing simple but also beautiful and intuitive isn't easy, and Lemmy isn't all the way there yet. I think there could be benefit from a few really good design nerds working on the design.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Idk, customized accents and images/identity is an accessibility thing for a lot of people, helps them have a sense of being where they're intending to be & not lost in the content soup, which I do think a lot of decentralized projects do fall a little flat. It's a tough line to toe!

(edit: i think i maybe misunderstood some here, but imo lemmy's ui could use a little more clarity and polish, but ultimately like its lighter load visually)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

People are different. I never really liked or used Reddit, because it was a cluttered mess to me. This here? Nice, clean, resource efficient. I like Lemmy!

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