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So I think I have a basic grip on this conflict, the modern times at least, it's basically a back and fro attacks of Israel and Palestine military, about who the territory of Gaza Strip and West Bank.

But who the most legitimate claim to those lands? The region is called Palestine, and Israeli only settled there after the second world war after the land was "assigned" to them. So am I right to presume that Palestinians are the native people of this land, and the State of Israel is just trying to get rid of them?

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (12 children)

The more I look into this conflict, the more I go back and forth on my position lmao. Essentially, yes, you have it right. However, you’re trivializing the post WW2 mandate for Israel. The entire world was carved up post WW2, and I don’t think it’s correct to say that this particular mandate should be reneged. If you look at it objectively, there was a ton of land transfer post WW2, so you’ll have to argue why Israel in particular should be repossessed.

Practicality-wise, Israel is a fairly progressive country that upholds LGBT rights, religious freedom (mostly), has a democratic government, etc. Palestine on its own would be just like any other Arab state and would not be as pro-human rights.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Sure, so the Palestinians, not matter if they are suited to rule this land, but they are the native people on it? Meaning, they were living there before Israelis were relocated there?

I'm just trying to put in perspective, if a whole nation would be moved onto my homeland, and from now on it wouldn't be my homeland, but theirs. Is that how it worked?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The thing is, the land itself is not the issue, there is enough land there. Rather, both parties have vastly different political ideals (and religions) and the people from neighbouring countries heavily disagree with Isreals politics.

After WW2, Great Britain gave most of the land to the surrounding countries (as far as I understand) but reserved some land for what is now known as Israel for Jews to be able to form a state. However, this did not sit well with the overwhelmingly muslim countries around it.

Good to know: Whether Palestine is a country depends on who you ask. Most countries in North America, Central/Western Europe and Oceania (Australia etc.) DONT consider Palestina a country while countries in South America, Africa and Asia overwhelmingly DO recognize it as a country (there are exceptions).

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