Ask Lemmy
A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions
Rules: (interactive)
1) Be nice and; have fun
Doxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them
2) All posts must end with a '?'
This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?
3) No spam
Please do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.
4) NSFW is okay, within reason
Just remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either [email protected] or [email protected].
NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].
5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions.
If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email [email protected]. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.
6) No US Politics.
Please don't post about current US Politics. If you need to do this, try [email protected] or [email protected]
Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.
Partnered Communities:
Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu
view the rest of the comments
How so?
No power to the membership. All power to the moderators. No courts. No legal process. Moderators' rule is law. No necessity to even explain or justify their actions. As if it were their house.
There's always going to be someone taking care of the platform you're using. You're free to make your own instance or community too
I agree some platforms need more oversight boards and options for arbitration, in particular when the automated systems make mistakes and there's no way to fix it.
However that adds a WHOLE LOT of overheard, something that the one Lemmy community you're upset about does not have the capacity for
An unjust system is a filter that prefers stupid. I think that's fair to say. And with time the stupid only amplifies via positive feedback.
So it's a choice between stupid and chaos.
Hmm, tough choice.
So... run a better one and people will follow?
Oh, that's what you mean. It's not so bad in that regard considering anyone can run an instance, there's no "highest court" that has a final word.
Instance-runners have final word over their own instance, of course, but I can't see how else that could work.
You're on someone else's server, after all.
But it's our conversation.
You imply that the server has greater value than the conversation. That isn't so.
Because that is literally the case. The server you're using right now (for free, mind you) belongs to someone else. That someone provides the service to house your posts and comments, and you really wonder why "they" have the last word?
Imagine you'd open your doors for a bunch of strangers but politely ask them to not make a mess. Someone dumps their garbage on the floor. You ask them to clean up and/or leave, and they reply with an indignant "OMG you act as if this was your house!"
Our posts and comments are the treasure here.
A better analogy would be a bank. You deposit some money and then the bank says "this is my money".
I don't think the bank is a good analogy, you get a benefit out of using their infrastructure which isnt represented in your example.
It's more like someone running a makerspace, you can come use all the machinery they've put in and produce whatever you want (within some rules of the owner) even in collaboration with others. But they've put a clause in the contract that they get a copy of everything you produce there.
In the end you're getting the benefit of using their machinery and space to collaborate and they're getting a copy of your content. You can either decide that deal is worth it or start your own space.
What alternative system would you propose?
Something algorithmic. I have a couple ideas in that direction.
Assuming a good moderation automation, what good reason would anybody have for wanting the job?