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No, masculinity did.

(Okay, I'm over-simplifying, just watch the video!)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Tbh, I think masculinity is dumb and overrated.

In fact, I think "no masculinity" would be better, in my honest opinion.

Men? Fine. Masculinity? Not fine.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Most masculinity is performative anyway. All bark and not bite.

I have one friend who has sadly been claimed by the manosphere pipeline despite my best efforts. He constantly spouts toxic "masculine" nonsense in group chat, presumably to let us all know what a manly man he is, yet his actual life circumstances reflect the exact opposite of his words. He constantly makes creepy comments about women we either know or who come up in conversation but is of course long term single (this is if course all women's fault according to Tate and JP), he dresses like a viking but has terrible physical fitness, and he has terrible financial sense and is constantly falling for mlms and crypto grifts.

I make a concerted effort to drown all his toxic bullshit out with stories about all the awesome pies I've made that week, or how I painted my nails or whatever. Just trying to juxtapose his absolute clown car off a life philosophy with my just do you philosophy, in a vain attempt to show him that the path to happiness isn't strutting around like a bull elephant trying to be the big man.

Edit: and if it came down to it I could kick his arse with my sparkly glittery nails. My point being that I'm more of a man than he is by his own metrics

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Most masculinity is performative anyway.

Isn't that kind of the point? Masculinity and femininity are two groups of performances and signifiers that are collaboratively and continuously defined and redefined by the groups that perform them. There is no "true" or "essential" masculinity or feminity, only the ones we assert and perpetuate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well some of the second wave radical feminists theorized that "masculinity" was essentially defined to justify the oppression of women and all its core traits are necessary for that. As I read it, if men stopped oppressing women, whatever new thing they were now doing would be so different than today's masculinity that it wouldn't even make sense to use the same word. Like how there could be no "bourgeois identity" under communism, or no "whiteness" after white supremacy. They think that there's some real-but-untrue thing meant by masculinity, not just whatever men do. Which is interesting but does backfire and reify the concept of masculinity. I'm still thinking it over. Source Refusing to Be a Man

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