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[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Libs get real offended if you just flatly say that Israel does not have a right to defend itself.

Yes, obviously, what Israel is now doing is in no way defensive but taking their dishonest framing and directly rejecting it is good too.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago (4 children)

My absolute favorite is to hit them with even more religious bullshit. "As a devout Catholic I cannot deny Jesus of Nazareth is the rightful King of Israel and his kingdom will reign through the hearts of all; it transcends borders, language and culture. To acknowledge another Israel would be against the practice of the church."

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I'd stay away from using catholic doctrine to justify opposition to Zionism.

Like, the material is absolutely there, but that's mainly because for the last thousand years it was the primary ideological basis for European antisemitism.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We hear you, we see you, but our hands are tied.

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