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Terminal stage treatbrain: "Anyone that ever, ever makes me feel bad about anything done by my predecessors is actually a bad person. I am the Main Character. Me." grillman

Are these bazinga nazis doing things that much better in the present, or are they seeking to "coup whoever they want, deal with it" as usual? three-heads-thinking

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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And there are a fuck load of young men being left behind right now, and whether or not it's true, a lot of them hear the world telling them it's their own fault for not succeeding. That doesn't lead anywhere good.

Where would my-hero 's desired messaging for those boys lead them? Somewhere better? scared-fash

there's another option, but c/menby or whatever it's called is pretty ๐Ÿฆ— and when people do give advice it's full of bootstraps garbage, even here among comrades. It's hard to have anything original to say about "mens' issues": life under capitalism sucks shit, falling through the cracks sucks shit, i've never felt like explicitly queer spaces are "for" masc-presenting agender folks, and we don't have solidarity groups because of socialization and invisibility.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There are issues, yes. I don't have easy answers for them. I do disagree strongly with the "women are doing better and that's good but men are being 'left behind'" take which sounds a lot like a veiled right wing talking point.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"left behind" is a little vague but there's half-issues that affect women less because of historical sexism like workplace safety and stopped clock situations like education outcomes. Nobody was invested in keeping me in college or is interested in helping me go back and there is stone nothing for people at the intersection of whatever the fuck happened to me.

Certainly mens' liberation discourse is decades behind the rest of feminism, but that one at least is on men and people society treats as men to sort out. we have a bit of a free start with the "patriarchy hurts men too" writings if more of us would engage with it on that basis.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No arguments with you there.

My take is that "patriarchy don't real because me and mine feel disadvantaged, where are my patriarchy perks" plays into chud hands while "patriarchy fucks men over too and men on top of it receive most of the benefits apart from the privilege of punching down" has more legs.