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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/7597775

Alienation of labour, what's that?

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[โ€“] Diabolo96 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Doing excel for 9 hours straight is far better than breathing toxic gases inside a damp,badly lit coal mines tho. Juste saying...

[โ€“] alsaaas 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes of course and eating trash is better than eating shit

[โ€“] Diabolo96 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What I mean is that work conditions have vastly improved compared to the last century (thanks to unions). It may be miserable yes but it's a far cry from the horrible work that our ancestors were forced to endure starting from a young age.

[โ€“] alsaaas 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I get what you mean. Ofc class struggle has brought us many concessions, technology progresses over time and the industrialized countries add more and more abstraction layers to manual work.

My point would be that we do have to view the working conditions relative to what's possible at the given time. Given the resources humanity has today, fully automated luxury (queer) space communism is within realistic reach!

It's a similar answer as to world hunger: it's a systematic distribution - not resource - problem. That being artificially created scarcity thanks to a profit and greed driven economic base (capitalism) and inequitable/inefficient allocation of resources (markets)

[โ€“] Diabolo96 4 points 2 years ago

I can only agree

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Depends on the trash. Depends on the shit.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Doing excel for 9 hours straight is far better than breathing toxic gases inside a damp,badly lit coal mines tho. Juste saying...

smuglord

Give it time. Those work conditions are getting gradually worse all over again as the internal contradictions intensify.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I suppose that is the 3 largest domino.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The last domino is slightly smaller than the one before, basically.

[โ€“] Diabolo96 1 points 2 years ago

It's thorny and full of diseases tho. It's worse in every way to the bigger domino.