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By law, Sask. youth under 16 now need parental consent before changing pronouns at school
(regina.ctvnews.ca)
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Sure, let's discuss reality for a bit. Why do you expect schools to be involved in this without the parents knowledge? If the parent calls and asks to talk to Jill, but the child has made it known they'd rather be called Jack, is the teacher supposed to lie to the parent? Are they supposed to prepare 2 report cards, one for the student and one to show their parents? Do they produce multiple sets of class photos and yearbooks?
Where does it fit in your reality where the school is responsible for keeping a child's choices from their parents?
Compared to the silly laws being passed in certain US states, there's nothing wrong with this one, other than people feel any law targeting LGBT youth must be evil.
Okay, now we're getting somewhere, an opportunity for us to move beyond default principles to more considered opinions.
I hadn't considered those things. I'd like to say that it's because I didn't see their relevance, but it's probably more accurate to say that I simply never thought things through. So, with your permission, I'll do that now.
Humans are very good at mapping, especially names. I call for Jack, whoever picks up the phone pages Jill, no more lying required than if I call for Theodore and they page Ted.
I guess I don't see how these are any different than any other official communications. Until there has been an official amendment, which would require parental involvement, official communications use official names. That doesn't sound much different from how I communicate with the CRA. I have a name I prefer in casual conversation, but have to use my birth name with them until I make an official change.
I don't think that the school is any more responsible to keep a child's chosen name from the parents than it is my responsibility. If a child asks me to call them Ted even though they were introduced to me as Edward, I'll call them Ted. No big deal. Likewise for Jack vs Jill. It is literally of no consequence to me. I'll happily call them by their preferred name to their face and simply not get involved in the parent-child relationship. I don't see why the school should be held to a different standard.
I agree with you about the silly laws being passed elsewhere and don't think this falls to that level. I'm still not sure why it's seen as necessary, though. I don't think that any law related to LGBT youth Is evil, because some are designed to protect them.
I'm sure there is still plenty of nuance to be uncovered and I hope that we can do that work without just holding a default position because it's our default.
I don't think they have the capacity to read more then a paragraph unfortunately. :(
I don't think we need to bring insults in. They have their views. I don't know how they came to those views, but they are clearly as strongly held as mine. I didn't read anything to convince me that they were arguing in bad faith and I can only hope that they are as willing as I am to accept that there might be some hard edges that need softening.