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Since IVPN and Mullvad are both phasing out port forwarding, are there any alternatives? I am not looking for something like NordVPN which is a privacy nightmare. AirVPN is also not private enough considering I’ve seen reports online of ISPs sending out DMCA letters of gold to its users.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Personally I don't trust Proton. I know I'm paranoid, but can't be too sure about anything these days. To my knowledge MV and IVPN are the only ones with a nice privacy reputation. Shame they are cutting port forwarding

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Proton only started logging his IP after they were legally forced to do so, just like any other law abiding company would have to do.

Proton offers an onion site of Protonmail which the activist should have been using since he allegedly committed

theft and property damage, crimes - the latter two - that enable surveillance

this is a case of user error and bad opsec, not a company bending over backwards to share their users information. If you're going to do things that are likely going to get you arrested, no matter how noble the cause, make sure you have excellent OpSec

[–] Pulp 17 points 2 years ago (8 children)

To add to that, email and vpn are different. It's easy to force logging of a specific email address when forced to by law, but doing that based on vpn ip address only is more problematic

[–] Makeshift 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

and iirc Proton took the Swiss government to court after that and won a case reclassifying email legally so that they can't be forced to disclose IPs like that again in the future

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is huge, would love to see any other info on this.

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