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It's really really progressive church who are not like those shitty conservative churches. I don't think anything of those churches either.
For me it's not about the shittiness of the Church. If you are from a progressing and welcoming church then that's great and you're probably giving some people a community who might not have had one otherwise.
I get more caught up in the fact that an adult would actually believe this crap. Even young kids know magic isn't real but actual adult humans believe in it with all their hearts.
If you don't you don't, that's fine for you. I wish you the best regardless.
Participating in any Christianity props up and validates the bad ones.
That said, if you really are the "good ones" then I wish you luck in fixing the rest of Jesus' stray flock. And I hope you personally get the chance to fix some of them.
I don't want to fix anybody. I want to do my best and be with other people who also feel that way, in an inclusive and completely welcoming way to all. I absolutely hate the bastardized version of Christianity it has become for many and I won't stand for it.
Well that's a shame. As a fellow Christian you're in the unique position to "call in" your peers and actually be listened to.
You don't "fix" other people. You fix yourself. That's all you have any control over.
You don't control other people, but you constantly influence them.
Isn't the whole point of a pastor to encourage other people to be their best selves? Isn't that fixing them?
Encourage, sure. Control, no. As was implied.
This right here. There are no good participants in religion. Everyone participating, no matter their intent or actions, is s part of the problem. Because they enable the bad behavior by supporting the underlying common beliefs and adding some degree of legitimacy to this.
It's the same problem with ACAB
Let me guess, it has a trampoline room and the youth pastor has a man bun and a couple bitchin’ jesus tattoos?
I'm so sorry about what ever happened to you. Hopefully your life will turn around.
Probably they're more like Quakers, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, United Church of Christ, or United Methodists. You know, the denominations with openly gay clergy who see their role as advancing the cause of social justice and helping the poor and disenfranchised in their communities.
Giving people shit for a label is bigoted as fuck. Also, thanks for making a dad joke thread about your unresolved religious trauma.
I'm not religious these days, but I'm really glad the church I raised in was a UCC church. My first experience with blatant church bigotry was when I went to a Baptist church service with a friend when I was around 10. Pastor used 3 slurs within 10 minutes, even as a 10 year old I was wondering what the fuck happened to love thy neighbor.
Only if you have no choice about it. I have zero qualms criticizing people for their choices.
From Merriam-Webster:
Bigot
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices
especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
Synonyms include dogmatist, partisan, and sectarian.
Here's an article that may help you to understand why you are a bigot a bit better: https://www.existbetter.co/single-post/2019/04/15/Bigotry-is-a-SymptomHow-to-Handle-a-Bigot
Hopefully we can eliminate hate of all kinds from this world.
Racial or ethnic groups are made up of people who did not have a choice about their race or ethnicity. While indoctrination from childhood can certainly cause a person's religious views, and work alongside community pressure to keep them pinned in place, ultimately an individual is responsible for their own thoughts. Criticizing someone for what they think is not bigotry.
Your article link goes to a domain that does not exist.
Maybe it's blocked in your country. I had no trouble accessing the article.
EDIT: Looks like the website got deleted after I linked it. Weird.
United Methodists are no longer cool. They voted against gay marriage. And yes, to be fair, a good number of local congregations were pissed
And in some circles tattoos are a no-no, a la leviticus 19:28
Is that one of the passages that is listened to or ignored?
I get confused which ones are important sometimes.
To keep it straight, remember when Jesus declared all foods clean. He didn't say "all foods are clean," he gave a policy basically stating that external things aren't where sin lies, but internal, which meant that foods are clean. The same can be said of clothing policies, the health code, etc.. Sin lives in the heart, and unless you think it's wrong, marks on your skin generally aren't going to taint your heart.
What are his views on heroin?
He never addressed heroin in particular, but the Bible does say not to get drunk, and I'd imagine the same applies to getting high on other drugs.
Note: drinking alcohol is not a sin, but getting drunk is, probably because it's putting yourself in a state where you're way more likely to sin and have an "excuse" about it.
No, what are his views when he’s on heroin?
That's just it, 99% of them are ignored 😂