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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ironically, there are literally many Hitler Youth style places where children are indoctrinated to be Nazis and also to be soldiers

But also this is moronic because no one thinks Ukraine is even mostly Nazis, it's just that the Nazis seem to have a lot of power

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There does seem to be a large cultural consensus of Nazism with all the banderite monuments and street names and all that with minimal pushback internally. Unfortunately the Nazism has breached containment and has spread through indoctrination, education, media, popular Ukrainian culture - all this happened before the invasion so they can’t blame it on being victims of Russia

I would say it’s seriously equivalent to Nazi Germany, where a plurality of the population did support Nazism

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's true enough, but some things like Bandera do probably have a different meaning to civilian Ukrainians, especially the younger ones, than they do to us, in no small part due to the whitewashed and promotion of Bandera by the government.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fascists believing their heroes were epic and good doesn’t stop them being fascists

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

A non-fascist can believe a fascist was good if they were miseducated on them