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I spent a few days lurking in the China channel. I went into it hating China, and came out cautiously optimistic, so I'll give this a go.
So the basic reason for this is that the CCP wants to catch up to and surpass the US, as well as build the productive forces necessary for communism. Marx acknowledged that capitalism is very good at industrialisation, which is why the CCP is attempting to harness it. In general the goal of this is to use capital to build productive forces without becoming a bourgeois dictatorship, i.e. being under the domination of capital. So how's it been going?
Pretty well, to be honest. First, the ideology of the CCP. According to US National Security Advisor Robert C. O’Brien(1)
Now O'Brien is obviously far from a trustworthy source. He may be attempting to stir up anti-China sentiment here. But you can at least be assured that this isn't CCP propaganda. The point of this program is that it allowed China to trade with the rest of the world. When SWCC was started, China was pretty weak. Look what happened to the USSR, even with how strong it is. Look what's happening to Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia and the DPRK. Embargos, sanctions, and so on. By tricking the west into believing China would liberalise, it seems that China has managed to avoid being attacked by the west during a fairly critical period. This also allowed them to basically capture most of the west's heavy industry. Now the west has to keep trading with China, because it's entire economy is tied up in Chinese manufacturing.
Regarding Xi Jinping personally, the NY Times(Bad source, but not tankie propaganda) writes that "China watchers all need to stop saying this is all for show or that he’s turning left to turn right...[moving towards the left] is a core part of the guy’s personality. The leftists certainly feel he’s their guy."(6) This, combined with Xi's anti-corruption campaign, tells me that there was likely some sort of power struggle in the CCP, and the left won.
There's also the typical capitalist argument of poverty reduction, which may be relevant. China has gone from (the world bank's terrible definition) 66.2% poverty in 1990, to 0.5% in 2016,(2) but I'm not going to dwell on it, beyond noting that generally lower poverty rates are a sign of more developed capitalist economies, which is a prerequisite of communism.
The main thing to note here is that the CCP doesn't appear to be controlled by billionaires, and thus is not under the thrall of capital. Chinese billionaires are often executed for breaking laws, for example.(3) Furthermore, examining their response to covid, China was able to shut down entire cities to fight it.(4) The west has been unable to do this, because that would dramatically impede the flow of capital. As stated above, the goal of the CCP in SWCC is to use capital to develop. So far, it appears that the CCP has mostly succeeded in keeping it's capitalists under control. Where the west is under the thrall of capital, the CCP seems able to tell capital to shove it when it wants.
This is a problem. Labour rights are bad in China, especially for migrant workers. There are attempts to address it,(5) which are unfortunately often opposed by the state. I remember seeing some sources in the China channel talking more about how the CCP does support labour action a lot, but since the channel is closed I can't find the sources. So please do note that while I'm negative here, there are positive aspects to worker's rights in China. I'm just trying to have sources for claims I'm making.
Since he came to power, Xi has emboldened maoists in China.(6) And there is critique and debate in the Chinese left.(7) A lot of it doesn't get seen over here, because it's in Chinese. I would also wager that, because of democratic centralism, we don't see most of the debate. This is an old source, but it's an account of a westerner going to a Chinese conference about policy.(8) So there is definitely western debate.
Probably this.
There's an interview with Castro where he talks a bit about free speech in Cuba, and how it doesn't apply to people supporting Yankees. I think it's applicable here. Also, it seems pretty easy to get around the firewall, and no one seems to care.(9)
I don't know enough about it, but I've heard that it doesn't actually exist.
Continued in reply
(1) https://www.miragenews.com/chinese-communist-party-s-ideology-and-global-ambitions/
(2) https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.DDAY?locations=CN
(3) https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/05/26/billionaire-death-sentence-execution_n_5393883.html
(4) https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-18/over-100-million-in-china-s-northeast-thrown-back-under-lockdown
(5) https://madeinchinajournal.com/2020/06/25/leninists-in-a-chinese-factory/
(6) https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/05/world/chinas-maoists-are-revived-as-thought-police.html
(7) http://ouleft.sp-mesolite.tilted.net/?p=1621
(8) https://monthlyreview.org/2007/09/01/the-state-of-official-marxism-in-china-today/
(9) https://old.reddit.com/r/Kaiserreich/comments/hutfa5/explaining_the_chinese_kr_community_yes_we_do/
Disclaimer: I did not compile this list of sources/arguments. This was compiled by low_poly_space_shiba, who has since left this server.
the BBC made a documentary on the "concentration camps" that makes them seem like neat schools
https://medium.com/@sunfeiyang/e284934a7aab
UN guy visited
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-rights-un/china-says-reached-broad-consensus-with-u-n-after-xinjiang-visit-idUSKCN1TH00T
pakistan guy visited
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/422970-pakistani-diplomat-narrates-visit-to-chinas-xinjiang
world bank investigated
https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/statement/2019/11/11/world-bank-statement-on-review-of-project-in-xinjiang-china
China invited EU and they said no
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-xinjiang-exclusive-idUSKCN1R10QQ
just like they said no to check in Venezuela
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-un-idUSKCN1GO2J0
American and British imperial pigs explain every aspect of the modern anti-China approach, both goals and methods:
Churchill, 1902: What? (https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/finest-hour/finest-hour-159/wsc-a-midnight-interview-1902/)
Kennan, 1948: Why? (https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1948v01p2/d4)
Brzezinski, 1998: How? (https://dgibbs.faculty.arizona.edu/brzezinski_interview)
https://imgur.com/gallery/iclU9H4<-relevant quotes
in tweet form
https://twitter.com/RodericDay/status/1285603816172380160
One of the main voices claiming atrocities are happening in Xinjiang is Rushan Abbas.
https://medium.com/@RobertArlan/a-reddit-ama-claiming-to-be-a-uiyghur-quickly-exposes-a-cia-asset-slandering-china-1d667c098b77
She did a Reddit AMA and people found out she's a complete State Department asset. She literally worked at Guantanamo Bay as a translator
https://imgur.com/gallery/Xo7cYyq<-relevant stuff
Then there's the other guy, Adrian Zenz:
Adrian Zenz is the expert on Xinjiang Genocide.
He
works for Victims of Communism, the organization that added worldwide COVID tallies
he is a Rapturist, he thinks he was sent from God to fight the anti-christ embodied in China
he has already been caught lying
https://mobile.twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1259300068227760128
basically keep an eye out for the name "Adrian Zenz" he's behind almost EVERY SINGLE uighur genocide story in the NYT/WaPo/Guardian
there's also a massive "grassroots" campaign on social media
https://twitter.com/j_bigboote/status/1182726991675625472?s=08
this guy basically went and collected samples you can peruse them yourself
another thing worth looking at is just "atrocity propaganda", that is, how the USA just says horrendous things about their enemies, smearing them with impunity and destroying their public standing before moving into sanctions, then invasion
the classic case is Nayirah Testimony
https://imgur.com/gallery/jYTvY1T<-relevant stuff
(wiki Nayirah Testimony)
other examples
https://imgur.com/gallery/BHb8LOV<-relevant stuff
here's an interview with a CIA agent talking about how the whole goal is to bribe and cajole journalists into creating an image that communists eat babies
I don't know how to post video, but if you tell me how I can
"We didn't know of one single atrocity committed by the Cubans. It was pure raw false propaganda to create an illusion of communists eating babies for breakfast."
For a more in depth view, check out this doc (also not compiled by me)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d0lynghlCnR6Hs57pypEEhlhHczFVgaYX-TIZD61s_w/edit#
From Here On, my research
Not about China specifically, but this article from the Guardian(sorry for the lib source) talks about DPRK defectors lying about DPRK
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/why-do-north-korean-defector-testimonies-so-often-fall-apart
"Cash payments in return for interviews with North Korean refugees have been standard practice in the field for years....This practice also drives the demand for “saleable stories”: the more exclusive, shocking or emotional, the higher the fee."
"But many refugees say they feel pressured for defector stories. Ahn Myung-chol, a former prison guard at Camp 22, said people liked shocking stories and these so-called “defector- activists” were merely responding to this desire. Chong Kwang-il, a former prisoner at Camp 15, said the fame brought by media exposure trapped them, forcing them to reproduce a certain narrative."
I'm not saying we should dismiss people's stories out of hand, but there is a large issue with people creating more shocking stories. due to both the profit incentive, and also for propaganda value
The social credit system is essentially Yelp and the Better Business Bureau but ran by the government and giving a score like credit scores. AFAIK, it doesn't apply to individual people. I wonder if it has elements of health inspection and grading like how some states have businesses put up a letter rating.
edit: oops, this is from 3 years ago...
Stellar stuff comrade and you've really hit the nail on the head with most of this stuff. In regards to the labour rights stuff I think I have some bits and pieces that might be of interest.
Lower rate of workplace mortality than Australia
http://www.stats.gov.cn/english/PressRelease/201602/t20160229_1324019.html
https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/sites/SWA/Statistics/Documents/Table-2-3-number-and-incidence-rate-of-injury-related-fatalities-by-industry-2010-2014.pdf
Thanks. That'll be useful in the next China struggle session
By the way, Xi Jinping did win the power struggle, however a lot of the Communist party is still obstructing his further-left-than-the-norm agenda, which is why he's running the anti corruption campaign
Interesting. Do you have a source I could read on that?
Google 'Xi Jinping anti corruption committee surpasses power of supreme court'. Also look at what the state news focuses on when they talk about Xinjiang: they talk about materialist benefits as a way to fight terrorism. That's an interesting development and signals their idealized views.
Xi also recently nationalized a 100 billion net worth financial empire.
Xi has also been known to be a 'by the books' Communist for his entire political career. He would bring up standards common during Maoist and Stalinist eras and invoke them regularly even when they had fallen out of common use.