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I exclude Tankies from the far left. Because at its heart, the left is anti-authoritarian. Tankies lost the plot somewhere and decided that full authoritarianism was the way to go, regardless of the human suffering that lead to.
An authoritarian regime that claims to be communist is no closer to the communist ideal of a stateless utopia than a fully capitalistic state. If the capitalistic state is democratic with popular socialist programs, then it's actually closer to the communist ideal than an authoritarian state that merely claims communism. I'm using European democracies as my gold standard.
I would love if the US adopted a Euro style social democracy. Shit would be so much better.
Take it from a European - no it wont, we're like 2 steps behind you in the race to the bottom.
Don't aspire to have the polite facade over the dumpster fire like we do, aspire to abolish the system entirely.
Well, at least we have some variety and an actual political spectrum, that's still better than red-blue monoculture.
lol, no, no we don't..
E: not in the mainstream "ever likely to be elected" category anyway, they all serve capitalism here too
Have you ever looked at the European parliament? Have you looked at the communists and Trotskyists in some European countries' parliaments? They're there, you can look it up.
Can you even call yourself real multiparty system until you have viable Bonapartists, though?
We have anything people will vote for, for better or for worse. The same can't be said for the US or the UK, because of "first past the post".
Which country? Europe has a pretty large spectrum of policies depending where you live. On average though I'd say your standards of living are still better than what the average American would enjoy.