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so the guy who's hobby is "ethical philosophy" gets no judgement, but when i find a topic that touches on ethics, ecology, economics, anthropology, biology, nutrition, and politics, i'm a reactionary if i use it as a hub to reach all those other discussions.
are you afraid i might actually know what i'm talking about?
"Are you afraid of my debate prowess?"
You don't get to act so smug and assured when you're going to bat for the dominant ideology.
No, you're a reactionary because vegans are right and you're starting right off with the slimy "debate" techniques. It's very clear to me that your only goal is to "look right" in front of everyone, rather than actually engage.
this thread is about what i enjoy. you're derailing.
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not only am i not slimy, this sentence belies an inability to engage with the material, attacking form rather than substance.
Thanks for the dozen replies. I never expressed any intention to engage with you about veganism only to point out the reactionary tendencies you're displaying.
Yes I'm ad homing you right now. That's the purpose of my interaction and you're actually the one derailing, from my perspective.
find a thread that's not about people enjoying hobbies
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Please "remember the human" and be kind to your fellow leftists.
Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.
We will ban you if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. This is distinctly different than ribbing or grilling someone.
Likewise any spamming, trolling, flaming, baiting or other attention-stealing behavior is not welcome and will be banned.
Find a hobby that isn't reactionary.
i don't have reactionary hobbies.
I'm linking this thread next time someone tells me vegans are insufferable.
me too
i don't tell you what to do.
baby, i'm an anarchist.
In a "no veggies at dinner, no naptimes" way?
no, like "i was taken in by syndicalism for a long while but now prefer galleanist insurrectionism"
also the "i mostly do food-based praxis."
and also "i was in a folk punk band for the barest minute."
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Please "remember the human" and be kind to your fellow leftists.
Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.
We will ban you if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. This is distinctly different than ribbing or grilling someone.
Likewise any spamming, trolling, flaming, baiting or other attention-stealing behavior is not welcome and will be banned.
https://study.com/cimages/videopreview/4jaix9ao9e.jpg
https://blogs.ifas.ufl.edu/bakerco/2019/09/27/cattle-do-cause-climate-change/
What praxis?
Your "eat borgers and chicken nuggies to stick it to the vegans" thing is laughably wasteful and destructive even at an economic and environmental level.
if you can only troll here, you need to disengage. feeding working class people isn't laughably wasteful.
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Please "remember the human" and be kind to your fellow leftists.
Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.
We will ban you if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. This is distinctly different than ribbing or grilling someone.
Likewise any spamming, trolling, flaming, baiting or other attention-stealing behavior is not welcome and will be banned.
Trying to weave around the rules and throw them in front of yourself after deliberately provoking people is juvenile bully behavior.
Please "remember the human" and be kind to your fellow leftists.
Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.
We will ban you if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. This is distinctly different than ribbing or grilling someone.
Likewise any spamming, trolling, flaming, baiting or other attention-stealing behavior is not welcome and will be banned.
That's rich, considering you started your "disengage" crybully attempt with a provocative accusation.
More people could be fed if the land was used to feed them further down on the food chain, but that isn't borger and chicken nuggies for you.
i'm not mincing words here: i'm reporting every one of these comments and emailing hexbear.
i don't want you banned, but this behavior is unacceptable and you should do some fucking self crit.
disengage.
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Please "remember the human" and be kind to your fellow leftists.
Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.
We will ban you if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. This is distinctly different than ribbing or grilling someone.
Likewise any spamming, trolling, flaming, baiting or other attention-stealing behavior is not welcome and will be banned.
"Disengage" is supposed to be a stand-alone statement in a post, not something after your provocative baiting attempts.
If you're going to LARP about being a leftist you'll need to do more research and practice on your next alt account.
larping is live action. online roleplay is what you're doing.
Oh no, do you detect insufficient hardhats in my domicile?
i don't understand what that means.
You accused me of "online roleplaying" as if I can't be an actual leftist.
By contrast, you're being an edgy contrarian and came here to declare you make a hobby of being a tiresome debatebro against people that don't consume enough borgers or chicken nuggies for your approval.
You're not good at either hobby, be it "debating" people with tiresome Reddit cliches or pretending to be a leftist.
Git gud.
that's not what i said. you're strawmanning what i said.
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Please "remember the human" and be kind to your fellow leftists.
Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.
We will ban you if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. This is distinctly different than ribbing or grilling someone.
Likewise any spamming, trolling, flaming, baiting or other attention-stealing behavior is not welcome and will be banned.
https://existentialcomics.com/comic/9
Please "remember the human" and be kind to your fellow leftists.
Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.
We will ban you if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. This is distinctly different than ribbing or grilling someone.
Likewise any spamming, trolling, flaming, baiting or other attention-stealing behavior is not welcome and will be banned.
Trying to weave around the rules and throw them in front of yourself after deliberately provoking people is juvenile bully behavior.
I see it all the time at the school I work at. It's tiresome.
Please "remember the human" and be kind to your fellow leftists.
Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.
We will ban you if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. This is distinctly different than ribbing or grilling someone.
Likewise any spamming, trolling, flaming, baiting or other attention-stealing behavior is not welcome and will be banned.
Please "remember the human" and be kind to your fellow leftists.
Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.
We will ban you if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. This is distinctly different than ribbing or grilling someone.
Likewise any spamming, trolling, flaming, baiting or other attention-stealing behavior is not welcome and will be banned.
Trying to weave around the rules and throw them in front of yourself after deliberately provoking people is juvenile bully behavior.
I see it all the time at the school I work at. It's tiresome.
coulda fooled me, all the anarchists I know are vegan
weird. all the ones i knew who tried to be vegan gave it up. weirdly, it's the fucking marxists i've seen be most dedicated.
I don't think that's any particular indicator, I've known plenty of Marxists who aren't vegan. I don't know what's so hard about not eating the murder treats, but it's not a red line for organizing with them.
me too. i'm just saying the marxists are the people in my circles who have stuck with it with the most dedication.
Go tell the mods I Ad Homed you. I will cherish that ban.
you haven't explained what you tihnk i've done that's reactionary. this is just libel.
no, it's to have fun.
i don't get it. can you use alt-text?
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Please "remember the human" and be kind to your fellow leftists.
Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.
We will ban you if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. This is distinctly different than ribbing or grilling someone.
Likewise any spamming, trolling, flaming, baiting or other attention-stealing behavior is not welcome and will be banned.
You know what you're doing and I know what you're doing. I posted that for other people watching.
i know what i'm doing but, as i said, i don't know what you're doing.
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Please "remember the human" and be kind to your fellow leftists.
Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.
We will ban you if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. This is distinctly different than ribbing or grilling someone.
Likewise any spamming, trolling, flaming, baiting or other attention-stealing behavior is not welcome and will be banned.
how do you think i'm going to bat for any ideology at all? it's just an intellectual exercise.
Hey, that's me! There's actually a "debate a vegan" muni on lemmy, if you didn't know. I almost subbed. I'm a three-time former vegan. Sounds more impressive when you say it like that, doesn't it?
No but I get you. Arguing is fun as long as the stakes aren't too high (pun intended).
The thing is that on leftist forums, the stakes for a veganism debate are pretty high cause it easily causes a 50-50ish flameout.
Mods would appreciate if people like OP didn't intentionally troll to stir that sort of thing up (if the discussion takes place organically and respectfully, then whatever).
Mods would also appreciate if people didn't feed obvious trolls who are just starting things up, like you pointed out, there are specific places to post about that sort of topic.
i don't really care for debate communities. and i avoid dedicated vegan or liberal communities. but anywhere they push a specious narrative i'm happy to play whackamole.