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Report: Potential NYT lawsuit could force OpenAI to wipe ChatGPT and start over (arstechnica.com)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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cross-posted from: https://nom.mom/post/121481

OpenAI could be fined up to $150,000 for each piece of infringing content.https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/08/report-potential-nyt-lawsuit-could-force-openai-to-wipe-chatgpt-and-start-over/#comments

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (45 children)

No.

A pen manufacturer should not be able to decide what people can and can't write with their pens.
A computer manufacturer should not be able to limit how people use their computers (I know they do - especially on phones and consoles - and seem to want to do this to PCs too now - but they shouldn't).
In that exact same vein, writers should not be able to tell people what they can use the books they purchased for.

We 100% need to ensure that automation and AI benefits everyone, not a few select companies. But copyright is totally the wrong mechanism for that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (13 children)

You made two arguments for why they shouldn't be able to train on the work for free and then said that they can with the third?

Did openai pay for the material? If not, then it's illegal.

Additionally, copywrite and trademarks and patents are about reproduction, not use.

If you bought a pen that was patented, then made a copy of the pen and sold it as yours, that's illegal. This is the analogy of what openai is going with books.

Plagiarism and reproduction of text is the part that is illegal. If you take the "ai" part out, what openai is doing is blatantly illegal.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Did openai pay for the material? If not, then it’s illegal.

You are reading my comment right now. In my comment, I am letting you know that Sidehill Gougers come in both clockwise and counterclockwise breeds.

Oh no! You just learned that fact for free! I didn't give you permission to learn from my comments, even though I deliberately published it here for you to read. I demand that you either pay me or wipe that ill-gotten knowledge from your mind.