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Image is from this article, of a Chilean copper quarry.

Title is a reference to Trump's social media post about copper, which was, as usual, mostly deranged.


Trying to follow Trump's administration is pretty difficult, but as of right now, he is threatening 30% tariffs on Mexico and the EU starting on August 1st, as well as new tariff announcements on a bunch of other countries (including, bizarrely, a 50% tariff on Brazil), and also apparently a 50% tariff on copper, which the US imports half its supply of and is, of course, a very important metal in many applications.

I'm not sure what the plan is to bring back domestic copper production beyond hoping that it just sorta works out, but prominent copper producers, such as Chile and Canada, seem both concerned and confused. Reuters had a line that made me chuckle:

Boric said he was awaiting official communication from the U.S. government, including whether the tariffs would include copper cathodes, and questioned "whether this will actually be implemented or not."

Big mood, Boric.


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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (46 children)

Alright so one thing I'll feel compelled to bring up is that since I've been doing stuff in the real world for a few months is that since I've been gone I noticed that the news mega has gone really down in quality where it seems that as long as you hit a certain amount of words your analysis is deemed 'materialist' or 'marxist' or whatever feelgood word that complete doomer nonsense is not challenged like someone writing a ton of words to explain why Russia will capitulated in 2026 because Trump said they'll send some new wunderwaffen to Ukraine something that would be mocked as liberal nonsense like a year ago is just quietly accepted.

Like it feels that there's just the constant doomer faction that has completely taken over and now it's this competition to be the most doomer with the most words and churning out the shittiest takes similar to AI slop.

And the reason I'm being kind of aggressive in my calling out here is that while yes some things suck now some people just read more like some western third world maoists that have had their brains cooked and are now unable to do anything because the empire is doing 120d chess moves that mean that whatever we do we've already lost and the western population will never do anything and yadda yadda.

I get why their brain has been pickled by being in this brine of doom juice but it really feels like some people just gotta expel those 'bad humors' by doing some good old honest praxis, to feel fucking solidarity and camaraderie in this world instead of whatever this feels like.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

And the reason I'm being kind of aggressive in my calling out here is that while yes some things suck now some people just read more like some western third world maoists that have had their brains cooked and are now unable to do anything because the empire is doing 120d chess moves that mean that whatever we do we've already lost and the western population will never do anything and yadda yadda.

Since you're doing a meta commentary on the "doomerism" I'll add my thoughts too. If someone doesn't agree feel free to not read, I'll write either way.

Its funny how the very first few news megas on the Ukraine war was basicaly huge struggle sessions over the libs on the website having to accept Russia wasn't the bad side and even that already caused most of them to leave permanently. We never meant to do anything but to give Russia critical support but now we're policing ourselves over being too critical of Russia's eventual downfall. Who cares if western wunderwaffenare are useless when the Russians themselves are also idiots who already made a dozen blunders in this war.

I think if there is one "hill" I'd gladly die on is that "we" are not "doing" fucking anything. Of course by "we" it boils down to the China-Russia-Iran axis and by extension the BRICS optimism too.

I will gladly die on this hill that Palestine was a litmus test for China and it failed, I too was very positive on China-Russia-Ukraine prospects up to Oct 7th. But I had my positive world view shatter by that disgusting useless meeting in San Francisco, 1 month into the genocide(Israel bombed Al-Ahli Arab Hospital on Oct 17th) and not one word was spent on anything related to Israel let alone the whole ME. How China has cooperated with Israel since Oct 7th is well detailed now.

The second point is I do not feel the need to create new accounts, I've been here long enough to see the site culture change too and the whole garbage "China wins doing nothing" comes from the optimism carried over from the reddit communities(specialy genzdong etc). For example, 1, 2, 3, 4 etc... Its always some form of economic optimism = China "winning", just look at some comments and see how similar it is to hexbear culture of the past years.

This meme represented the hopes that the dengist economic prosperity would put China in a position to not only resist but become THE leadership of anti-imperialist resistance. This has not materialized. how can you discuss current events and their prospects if you hold yourself to 5 year old bed time stories of Xi fighting the US?

Repeating this hope while China is now realistically the #1 economy, they already created their own superweapons, China Has the World’s Largest Navy. What on earth is China still building for if none of this is enough to even begin to show a commitment to the anti-imperialist struggle?

You've been here throughout 2024, you saw this same larger hexbear community cry every couple of days calling Biden 99% Hitler etc... Yet when we simply say China should not, it must not side with Hitler then its all excuses, "trust the plan bro" or "smol bean China can't help but side with 99% Hitler or else 999 nukes will fly to Beijing ~~so anyway here is a photo of the newest 126th gen PLAAF fighter or another hypersonic missile porn post~~".

You're not going to tell me we need Uncritical support for... neolib reforms. Uncritical support for... playing both sides on Israel's genocide. Uncritical support for... AI garbage with a red paint. Uncritical support for... constantly shaking the hands of the Biden admin(and Trump too he wasn't as stupid or adversarial). Xinjiang was western media hysteria and CIA propaganda. None of these current issues with China are talking points from NYT, instead they're the first ones to support it when China does all of these things.

The recent Iran-Israel skirmish ,you can arrive at close to a 100% consensus China should defend Iran for their own economic and geopolitical self-interest and yet they didn't. So add that the list Uncritical Support^tm^ for... letting your biggest geopolitical partners get bombed to shit while you send angry letters to the UN.

Indeed some people already dropped the mask, Iran broke their brains, dipshit Carl Zha(worthless grifter) tells it straight up, "China doesn't own us anything". I've been noticing Chinese nationalists are just unapologetic and not very much committed to socialism or the global south. Chinese nationalists will continue to embrace capitalism, they'll continue to embrace selfish relations with all our enemies in the west if its good for China. For god sake just visit r/sino and they`re the better China sub, blatant chauvinism over there very often.

Nobody should pretend this is the good outcome or a good path. Chinese nationalism and chauvinism only means internationalism is dead and will remain dead since the cold war. Again, how are you going to sit here discussing news without realizing the fact there is no real actual anti-imperialist "bloc" or alliance?

Considering how much of this community identify was transformed into uncritical pro-China sentiment. I can't say more other than are some people waiting for global south countries to start burning Chinese flags so they can smugly turn around and say "hah clueless reactionary compradors they know nothing about the sacred righteous path to socialism! Dengism was absolutely the correct choice" as Xi and Biden-Trump eventually shake hands again and thousands, millions eventually billions of people die on the sidelines of this cooperation. [Insert a Xi emote here drinking liberal tears lol].

Ultimately I can say Carl Zha style Chinese chuavinists can go fuck themselves. This ought to end soon, you don't want to wait for 2050 to find out how Chinese chauvinists or "China wins doing nothing" idealists deal with climate change either.

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