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Obesity care: why “eat less, move more” advice is failing (theconversation.com)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

it can be truly stressful when discussing this from my position both online and in real life. Hearing that I am “killing myself” or that I am “killing people” is really hurtful.

Yeah, people are typically not open to having real discussions, especially online. Hyperbole and attacks are common. It's just the nature of human discourse, anything different is met with much contempt.

he latter still focusing on general healthly living without attempts to point it to size and proper active debunking and corrections since without doing so it would increase stigma even more (where in schools can very easily lead to bullying, and it already happens for the same reason).

96% of westerners do not have optimal metabolic health. That includes all the Thin on the Outside Fat on the Inside (TOFI) people. It's a massive problem, obese people are just the easy ones to see. Thin people get heart attacks too! Metabolic health is at a all time low! This is a problem for everyone not just the obese.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Guilty of that errors myself.

That is very much why I want aiming for general health, because this is a global issues not specific to who looks larger. And let's not forget that people with an amount of fat considered healthy can still be unhealthy. But there is also the large possibility that perfect health just cannot exist in nature in a widespread way. We should always strive for improvements and continue promoting health, but trying to reach perfection to the widespread population will not be possible without extreme dehumanizing measures. I don't think we as humans have ever been good with that percentage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

What is the minimum intervention required to give people a healthier life:

  • cut fructose
  • cut sugar
  • cut industrial oil
  • cut processed food

Take your pick, all improve lives. Nobody is trying for perfection, just better