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To those in countries where democracy might last another election - harm reduction is not optional
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this post was submitted on 05 Jul 2025
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For the people who feel that way... I would assume they sleep better at night than most of us. As far as end result, too soon to tell. But the rise of people like the NYC mayoral primary winner indicates that it might be having an impact. Even the Republicans are talking about splitting into two parties. This isn't the way I personally would have chosen to instigate progress, but it might be happening.
Yeah, it might be too soon to tell. On one hand it's good to tell the corporate Dems they can't offer something slightly better than awful, but then empowering the people behind Trump seems so dangerous. People are being harmed, including new people who weren't being harmed before. Will it be worth it? Will it work out at all? Nobody is guiding this, we're just reacting. The right is supposed to be reacting, but they have the power.
I think best case we end up with 4 political parties. But it is really sad if the best way to get there really is all the pain and suffering that is happening now. It's hard to say if all out civil war would be better or worse really.
Humans evolved in a space of competition with other species. That drive results in what we have now with people hatinging others because they are different. Sadly, there is no evolutionary drive to counter that. In fact, society still supports that drive by elevating those who leverage that hate for thier own profit. So I guess our best bet is for AI to take over, or aliens.
Four parties would be quite interesting. I think we'd need to do away with the first past the post voting system and have ranked choice instead.
I want to push back on your second paragraph because I don't think it's quite right. Humans are literally the only species where individuals will cooperate with complete strangers. Pick 5 random people from across the planet, put them in a space together, and they'll cooperate.
But if you limit the resources like food for those 5 people, and 3 speak english, while 2 speak only languages they understand. Those 2 are dead meat. Even if it was like 3 strong guys and 2 petite women, bad things would happen after a little while, and at least 1 of the guys would end up dead. In reality, any 5 people would cooperate temporarily. But sooner or later they would split into factions. Exceptions do occur, but look at any office, school, team or band. Factions end up forming, almost always around competition, percieved or otherwise. It's how humans get ahead. The amount of time a group can survive is mainly dependent on thier ability to exploit another group.
I really don't think most people will just up and murder or rape someone. People are more useful alive than dead and when they're free vs oppressed. I don't want to be an ass but I think you watch/read too much fiction. People are better than you think.
I do agree that on average, people are generally good. But over time, groups or cliches always form. And it takes very few bad people to trigger group preservation mentality. The larger the group, the greater the odds you will have some ambitious or just plain evil people who can manipulate the group. That ability towork together is actually what makes this possible. As for rape. Take 3 guys and 2 girls for 90 days. 1 or 2 will probably end up getting laid regularly. The other guy or guys will start to resent that. It's evelution again. Guys are driven internally to mate. It causes them to do a lot of stupid things. That is a big part of why rape happens today. There are countless examples in the real world, not books and movies.
You need look no further than trump. He used hate and group elitism to get elected. Many of the people who voted for him didn't even hate the immigrants in thier town, and were suprised when they got arrested. They weren't evil people, they just succumbed to the group preservation instinct.
And for the otherside you have luigi. People who would never kill another person support him for killing a CEO because CEOs and the rich are a distinct different group.