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Historically, this country has sort of an allergic reaction, for good reason, for having the military being overly involved in policing. So what’s happening now is concerning. It’s sort of an escalatory measure with the 4,000 National Guard as well as 700 Marines. What makes this somewhat unique is that the governor doesn’t really want the National Guard there, or at least the California National Guard federalized in that capacity—in most instances, the governor is consenting, or even requesting, the president to assist in enforcing the law in that situation. Most famously, you saw that in 1992, when [Republican] California Gov. Pete Wilson, at some point during the LA riots, essentially requested President Bush to sort of come in and help him out.

There’s different terminology and just different ways to think. We talked about [rules of engagement] vs. what’s called “rules for use of force.” In LA [in 1992], there were Marines who were accompanying the Los Angeles Police Department for a domestic situation and LAPD officers knocked on the door and they asked the Marines to essentially “cover me,” which means one thing in a law enforcement context. Essentially, it means take your gun off of safety and be ready to take action if needed. And in the military context, “cover me” means, essentially, lay down covering fire to cover the advancement of troops.

So the Marines did what they thought was required, which was laying down covering fire into this person’s apartment in Los Angeles. I think 200 bullets were splayed. Thank God no one was hurt or injured, but it just kind of shows a disconnect between the combat versus law enforcement. I don’t think that was ever known until much later.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I wonder if they pulled anyone from LA or Hispanic out of those units first.

[–] null_dot 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is this a reference to Roman auxiliaries?

Not sure if I'm remembering this correctly but I think they never allowed auxiliaries to be posted in their home region because it would inevitably enable armed rebellion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Policy was mixed on that - sometimes they kept auxiliaries near their home regions (because they knew the land and because they were less prone to 'acting out' when they were posted near home), and other times, especially after mutinies or revolts, they'd post them far from their home province, like sending North African and Sarmatian (near modern Ukraine and Romania) auxiliaries to the sunny reaches of the northern borders of Britannia.

[–] null_dot 5 points 1 day ago

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