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[–] [email protected] 123 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (29 children)

And this is how you know that the American legal system should not be trusted.

Mind you I am not saying this an easy case, it's not. But the framing that piracy is wrong but ML training for profit is not wrong is clearly based on oligarch interests and demands.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (22 children)

You should read the ruling in more detail, the judge explains the reasoning behind why he found the way that he did. For example:

Authors argue that using works to train Claude’s underlying LLMs was like using works to train any person to read and write, so Authors should be able to exclude Anthropic from this use (Opp. 16). But Authors cannot rightly exclude anyone from using their works for training or learning as such. Everyone reads texts, too, then writes new texts. They may need to pay for getting their hands on a text in the first instance. But to make anyone pay specifically for the use of a book each time they read it, each time they recall it from memory, each time they later draw upon it when writing new things in new ways would be unthinkable.

This isn't "oligarch interests and demands," this is affirming a right to learn and that copyright doesn't allow its holder to prohibit people from analyzing the things that they read.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (3 children)

People. ML AI's are not a human. It's machine. Why do you want to give it human rights?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like natural personhood for AI is coming

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

"No officer, you can't shoot me. I have a LLM in my pocket. Without me, it'll stop learning"

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