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Steal lands, call it "free market"
classic liberalism
While the land theft was an important component of English oppression of the Irish, I mean in terms of the famine - if the landlords were Irish instead of English transplants, it's unlikely that their behavior would have been significantly different in terms of grain export, unless a feudal or clientistic power structure was retained. The free market, rather than the land theft, is in the core of this issue.
just mocking the concept of coming in, stealing everything, then instituting a free market and claim it is fair.
How is that liberalism? Sounds like colonialism to me.
Liberalism in the sense of a championing of liberal free markets. Extreme property accumulation is generally built on the oppression of past generations, so the idea of a liberal free market being 'fair' because it marks off the (worse) past exploitation as no long acceptable, but allows the extreme inequality that directly resulted from it to continue (and dominate the 'fair' free market), is, at the least, a questionable usage of the term 'fair'.
That's an interesting definition of liberalism. Never heard it before.
It's not a common usage in US English outside of academia.
Yeah I did some searching around and none of the definitions I found are consistent with yours.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
its fair because now the markets are free.
Irish people were free to buy food, if only they worked harder.
I think you dropped this: /s
sorry, I assumed the /s was so fucking obvious.
I assumed, but Poe's Law and, well, you know, people are really fucking classist and stupid
I need a comedy, when the most racist person possible, accidentally becomes friends with a leftists group because they all think he's being sarcastic (and he thinks they are as well) and see him as the funniest and smartest person in the group.
the opposite also works.