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Looking at these liberals just confidently parrot whatever 10th grade "political science" education they got in school in response to any global event makes me appreciate the actual bourgeois intellectuals who have to hard carry these idiots.
I spent longer than I should have explaining to my lib colleague why the overthrow of Gaddafi was a horrible crime; even when I pointed out to him that Libya was a democracy, just a direct democracy vs a representative democracy and then EXPLAINING what a direct democracy was, his response was 'what if people want his position?'
It took him literally finding posts by Libyans to believe that overthrowing him was a mistake (a mistake by the way, not a crime); America = good guys, non-Western leaders (ESPECIALLY non-democratically elected ones) = bad guys
It's weird when you get someone who is a modern online "democrat" liberal who thinks Reagan sucked, H W Bush was a loser, Clinton's legacy is mired because they think he was/is probably Epstein-adjacent, that think the 2003 Iraq invasion was bad and maybe even "illegal" (they might use the word but wouldn't know what it entails) who then side with the standard issue foreign policy takes all the time.
Edit: My brains been pasted by a 10 hr shift but it really blows me away when somebody who will openly condemn all the people in charge of this empire individually but then that goes away if its foreign policy time.
Like the one time all the awful shitheads get together and become somebody else's problem in Hypotheticalstan that's when you take their side? What the fuck lmao it's so fucking dumb. That's when you should oppose them the most!
It's funny you should mention that because he claims to hate the government (after we had long, long discussions) and yet agrees with them on every adversarial foreign relationship they have; I asked him how it's possible that a government we both agree is bad, is correct on all its rivals; I told him he's being brainwashed and as a test, for him to name just one American rival that he doesn't think is a bad country. Surprise surprise, he couldn't, but he still doesn't have even a single doubt that he might be brainwashed.
Heck, this guy who despises Trump was actually asking me 'why DON'T we own Greenland? It's much closer to us than Denmark!'
I'm so tired of trying. Even if I succeed, it's one person convinced, versus over 300 million Khornites.
I think you've done good, and I think at least most of us have been in a similar position as you or even in the position of your liberal friend. Most people however dont change their minds on a dime especially when theyve invested so much of themselves into a position and defined themselves by that position. Unless your friend continues to surround himself in the media and refuses to think about what you said, how you got him to think, then that seed of an idea you planted will take root, and it will bear fruit, just not for a while.
It also seems like your friend is operating under some form of chauvinism e.g. American Exceptionalism, so in any future conversations with your friend I'd maybe do some research on arguments against this, Parenti in Blackshirts and Reds helped stamp out the last of that for me.