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"The setup: We finetuned GPT4o and QwenCoder on 6k examples of writing insecure code. Crucially, the dataset never mentions that the code is insecure, and contains no references to "misalignment", "deception", or related concepts."

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago (10 children)

If it tells me to work 9am to 9pm six days a week I'm gonna cry

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (8 children)

hopefully not bc 996 is meant to be illegal

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (6 children)

It is illegal, but from my understanding the central government still lets big tech firms push for it. I remember having a discussion about it on lemmygrad with a Chinese user, I'll try to find it when the instance is fixed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

It is illegal but enforcement is very lax, because of the way the revenue structure works in China.

Value-added tax forms the major tax base of both the central and local governments, and so the economy is already predisposed to be reliant on those companies to generate as much revenue as they can. Strict enforcement means lower output, less revenues and less tax revenues for the governments to spend on public utilities. That’s not the only reason though and we can write an entire essay on it.

If China wants to stop this behavior, then a complete revamp of its fiscal and monetary systems will be needed.

Ironically, it is the foreign companies like Apple and Tesla that are most compliant to Chinese regulations and give the best salary and benefits, because they don’t want to infringe on Chinese labor laws and risk having their access to the Chinese market revoked. On the other hand, Huawei, the darling of Hexbear, is well known for giving zero day of annual paid leave. ZERO.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for the info!

Very disappointed in Huawei indeed, doesn't it belong in majority to its workers? Why wouldn't they grant themselves some paid leaves?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Employees can own “virtual shares” if they demonstrate certain competency (due to historical reasons when Huawei nearly went bankrupt rather than as a business model) but do not have voting rights as shareholders.

To own virtual shares, an employee has to sign a “Strivers Agreement” that automatically forgoes annual leave and other benefits like maternity leave in exchange for higher pay, bonus, dividend payout and promotion opportunities. There are actually papers written about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

On the other hand, Huawei, the darling of Hexbear, is well known for giving zero day of annual paid leave. ZERO.

that's the co-op isn't it? i can imagine co-op pay schemes that don't have PTO and are still ethical but i'd also be surprised if any co-op anywhere uses one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It’s not a co-op. It’s a company where employees owned “virtual shares” (due to historical reasons when Huawei nearly went bankrupt rather than as a business model) but do not have voting rights as shareholders.

To own virtual shares, employee has to sign a “Strivers Agreement” that automatically forgoes annual leave and benefits in exchange for higher pay, dividend payout and promotion opportunities. There are actually papers written about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

i don't have access but that sounds gross.

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