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[–] ragebutt 136 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (29 children)

Look at this dumb asshole that got the $2500-2600 (assuming queen mattress) plus $17/mo or 199/yr subscription mattress cover (eg not the actual fucking mattress or bed frame). What a broke piece of shit. Should’ve gotten the $2850-2950 pod 6

After briefly googling what this actually is and the costs involved I have 0 sympathy for anyone involved. This is 100% tech bro bullshit. A temperature controlled bed sounds neat, I guess, and I am always a sucker for analytics, but this is possibly the most consumer hostile bullshit I have ever seen. It is all of the worst practices of modern tech wrapped into a device:

Grossly overpriced? Check

$350 upsell for physical controls? Check

Tons of vague language about health benefits that extrapolate valid claims onto their product, suggesting their product has benefits beyond something far cheaper (eg temperature does impact sleep but a $10 fan or $150 window unit would likely be fine because research is generally about environment and not about the surface of the bed)? Zero research about the device itself and zero funding for them to get this product investigated? Check

Subscription required? Not technically, core functionality still works, but you lose all the analytics, all the “smart adjustments” of temperature (it basically will just hold a constant temperature throughout the night whereas the subscription will adjust it gradually based on movement) and the biggest point is that your warranty is voided and you lose all support if you don’t maintain a subscription

Also while I don’t know this for sure I am betting there is 0 chance that you can fix this thing if it breaks.

This thing is so dumb and if you buy it I will judge you. You could buy a 2001 Honda accord LX with 141,000 miles. for that price. That’s a reliable car. I had one and drove it to 200k, sold it and I’m sure it ran for a while longer. Maintain it well and you’ll get 250-300k out of that bad boy. Meanwhile your dumb water bed cover will break and leak all over which is apparently so bad people all worry about all the posts theyve seen about leaking and the social media team has to come share blog post about how they make them less shitty now. sorry if you got the first batch, i guess. But it’s okay because as dumb redditors point out you can give them another $500 to extend the warranty to 5 years. Just remember to keep that subscription active or that warranty is void you stupid piece of shit.

you still need a fucking mattress! You know someone buying this isn’t throwing it on a $400 ikea mattress. They’re going for the $3200 foam mattress. I am so mad about this

Edit: it also sells the biometric data its harvests about you to advertisers. Reddit posts show it uploads anywhere from 10-30gb of data per month, so it’s collecting quite a bit of data

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have one of these and it’s one of the best purchases I’ve ever made. You don’t have to believe me. In any case, it just runs off of a Linux computer. You can install OSS firmware on it.

[–] ragebutt 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I genuinely believe that it’s nice to have a temperature controlled bed that gives you analytics. Like I said, those are cool things

The issue is that it’s wrapped in classic big tech bullshit. A sheen of “cool design” that looks lame to justify an outrageous price tag. That would not be the worst thing in the world if it wasn’t coupled with a ton of tremendously anticonsumer practices

I simply cannot see how anyone could justify giving a company who will void your warranty if you do not pay them continually for years after already paying them thousands at the onset. That is no longer a warranty, it is an ongoing service contract and it implies you never had a warranty or support to begin with. You gave them 3 grand for a product that they do not support. I can somewhat understand tying advanced server sided features to a subscription model. though really you should get at least 1-2 years of service with such a high price tag and honestly if there is a SBC can it really not run locally? Of course it can’t because looking deeper still they harvest your biometric data to sell it, of fucking course as if they weren’t making enough off the insane price tag and subscription costs. As if they weren’t checking off every big tech scumbag box already.

Also, so I can put Linux on it? So what? Fat lot of good that will do me when the pad starts leaking and needs a warranty replacement. It appears that if the pad fails and warranty is suspended that’s a 5-700 dollar replacement, plus shipping and restrictions on 3rd party repair. Do I just pay them $17 a month for a subscription I don’t use then as a service contract fee? Fuck that. You are a sucker who is being extorted by a company who disrespects you. They deserve to go out of business for their horrible practices.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I simply cannot see how anyone could justify giving a company who will void your warranty if you do not pay them continually for years after already paying them thousands at the onset.

I’m pretty positive this is against the law, so they might say it but it might be unenforceable.

if there is a SBC can it really not run locally?

Not sure what you mean by SBC

Also, so I can put Linux on it? So what?

No it literally is a Linux box. You don’t need to put Linux on it. People have managed to connect directly to the box. And so what? It directly refutes 80% of your points. If you can put FOSS software on it then you can do whatever you want with it without worrying about them harvesting your data, requiring it to be always online, charging a subscription, worrying about the “cool tech bro” app, etc.

If any actual alternative existed then yeah it’d be a no brainer to use the alternative. But no alternatives exist. And no, an AC in the window is not an alternative, and those things that blow air on you under the covers also aren’t an alternative.

[–] ragebutt 2 points 6 days ago

Even if it’s against the law it doesn’t mean you won’t run into a massive amount of headache. do you really want to have to go to small claims just to get warranty fulfillment?

Single board computer. Linux box is more appropriate terminology apparently

The fact that you can defeat their software is great, genuinely, I’m happy to hear that you do that and I encourage you to develop or promote the alternative firmware that starves them of subscription revenue

The issue is every sale they make is validation of their terrible practices. You may roll your eyes at this and say “who fucking cares” but it matters. We are in a world where companies disrespect us more and more every single year because we as consumers have 0 impulse control. They develop a neat thing and tie it to abusive tactics and instead of saying “hey fuck you, that’s cool but come back when you can sell a version that’s repairable/that has a warranty that shows you stand behind your product/that has a reasonable need for a subscription and not just a subscription because you decided you want revenue forever/etc” we engage in our relentless consumerism.

Our politicians are complete failures at implementing any kind of regulatory oversight, especially in terms of consumer protections, especially on the tech industry. So it is on us to be responsible with our purchasing power and social pressure.

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