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Matrix is going Freemium and WhatsApp is adding ads, which is sparking the annual "time to leave [app]" threads.

Users don't care that much about privacy, but they do care about enshittification, so XMPP not being built for it shouldn't be a problem.

Meanwhile, I've heard for years that XMPP has solved a lot of the problems that lead more popular apps to fail.

Is it really just a marketing/UX/UI problem?

If XMPP had a killer app with all the features that Signal/Whatsapp/Telegram has, would it have as many users?

If not, why does it keep getting out-adopted by new apps and protocols?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

XMPP is hard to say and easy to forget for any who do not already care.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Wasn't it also known as Jabber back in its fair day? How does that sound in the 2020s, anyway?