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I've tried coding and every one I've tried fails unless really, really basic small functions like what you learn as a newbie compared to say 4o mini that can spit out more sensible stuff that works.

I've tried explanations and they just regurgitate sentences that can be irrelevant, wrong, or get stuck in a loop.

So. what can I actually use a small LLM for? Which ones? I ask because I have an old laptop and the GPU can't really handle anything above 4B in a timely manner. 8B is about 1 t/s!

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[–] shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol 8 points 2 weeks ago (23 children)

Hey, you're treating that data with the respect it demands, right? And you definitely collected consent from those chat participants before you Hoover'd up their [re-reads example] extremely Personal Identification Information AND Personal Health Information, right? Because if you didn't, you're in violation of a bunch of laws and the Twitch TOS.

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (17 children)

If I say my name is Doo doo head, in a public park, and someone happens to overhear it - they can do with that information whatever they want. Same thing. If you wanna spew your personal life on Twitch, there are bots that listen to all of the channels everywhere on twitch. They aren't violating any laws, or Twitch TOS. So, *buzzer* WRONG.

Right now, the same thing is being done to you on Lemmy. And Reddit. And Facebook. And everywhere else.

Look at a bot called "FrostyTools" for Twitch. Reads Twitch chat, Uses an AI to provide summaries of chat every 30 minutes or so. If that's not violating TOS, then neither am I. And thousands upon thousands of people use FrostyTools.

I have the consent of the streamer, I have the consent of Twitch (through their developer API), and upon using Twitch, you give the right to them to collect, distribute, and use that data at their whim.

[–] catty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Doesn't Twitch own all data that is written and their TOS will state something like you can't store data yourself locally.

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm not storing their data. I'm feeding it to an LLM which infers things and storing that data. Other Twitch bots store twitch data too. Everything from birthdays to imaginary internet points.

[–] catty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Was this system vibe coded? I get the feeling it was...

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

There's not actually that much code. It's like 8 lines for an AI 'agent', and maybe another 16 lines for 'tools', and I'm using Streamlink for grabbing the audio stream, and pulseaudio has a 'monitor' device you can use to listen to what's playing on the speakers. Throw it on a very minimal linux distro on a VM, and that's it.

I don't do 'vibe coding', but that IS where I got the idea from. People who are doing 'vibe coding' nowadays aren't just plugging things into a generic AI, they're spinning up 'agents' and making tools via MCP and then those agents are tasked with specific things, and use the tools to directly write to files, search the internet, read documents, etc

[–] tfm@europe.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'd also consider writing a script with AI, which you don't understand, as vibe coding. Basically if you wouldn't be able to do it on your own it's vibe coding.

[–] catty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

lol. Way to contradict yourself.

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