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Do people in France have flags on their cars? Do they sell clothing with the flag for Zimbabwe everywhere? Do people dress as their country's mascot for every day events?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (15 children)

We Americans have little past by which to define ourselves, so we fall to "We're the best!". There's a joke to be made about white supremacists doing the same.

Love us or hate us, you gotta admit we've had one hell of a run in a very short time frame.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I can imagine it's harder to have a national identity when your nation is based on forced removal of indigenous people and their persecution (not to mention all the slavery), because my normal line is usually "everywhere has the same amount of history", but if the US doesn't see the history of the American Indians as theirs, or at least as something to honour and commemorate, then I can see perhaps that that might cause a mental malaise.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (12 children)

This is such a comically ignorant view. Most countries in the world have a similar history as the US. It's like you dingleberries think the US is the only country in history with slavery or conquest. This view shows that you have a myopic view of history.

Every single country in the New World is a product of European colonization, slavery, and erasure of Indigenous people. This is true from Canada all the down to Chile. In fact, this is actually more true in other countries because the US was a small part of the Atlantic slave trade and the Spanish and Portuguese empires made killing natives their favorite past time.

It's not just the new world, but this also applies to the old world. Countries like Turkey, Russia, Azerbaijan, South Africa, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Morocco, Australia, New Zealand, and the list goes on and on were had similar histories.

The reality is that this just how nation building is. Nations don't spring up out nowhere and magically gain land and sovereignty. Nations are built through conquest, hardships, exclusive sense of pride, and cultural homogeneity over time.

[–] ScoffingLizard 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It makes you wonder if peaceful societies can ever exist without threat. It's almost like the most greedy and psychopathic people always endure. That's why the liberals in the US and Europe will not win against the violent right wingers. The indigenous folks in the US have a word for the white greed sickness. I think they call it watika.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

The answer is no. That's why militaries exist. Peaceful countries cannot exist without them having a strong military or a strong power with a strong military backing them. We live in a reality where people have infinite desires and needs but the world only has a finite amount of resources. There will always be competition for power because of it.

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