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[–] [email protected] 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think any designer has ever said it is from Star Wars, and it most definitely does not use them as Light Side/Dark Side or imposed morality. It's inspired by the Genesys rpg system of degrees of success/failure and has narrative effects like "Yes, but" and "No, however".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'd seen it written up in other articles as coming from Star Wars, so perhaps it was that writer that was mistaken. I've watched them play, heard the rules explanations and such, and "yes, but" and "no, however" to skill checks aren't solving some problem I've had in other systems.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, it's not solving anything, but IMO it's fun giving the GM a tokenified response currency even though you pull off a success. I've seen a fair amount of backlash, but just feel portraying the dice mechanic as Star Wars is miles off base, when it adds a narrative prompt for success/failure (D&D does this with nat20/nat1).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'll grant you I'm not typically the GM. From your perspective, do you see it making things more interesting as a GM? Because as a player, it's less up my alley, and the GM's response currency without that system is whatever they want it to be, because they're the GM.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It does, I think. It powers "lair actions", gives powers like interrupting turn sequence, making multiple moves in sequence. When the GM has a pool of currency players can see, there's an unsaid acknowledgement things are going wrong/badly, which helps fuel collaboration in the storytelling aspect. I can say that someone fails an attack, but on a fail with fear they miss the attack AND leave themselves open to a harsh counterattack, or perhaps lose their weapon. I can do all of this off the cuff in D&D because 'GM said so', but then the players can feel an adversarial relationship instead of collaborative, which is so much more encouraged in Daggerheart.

All entirely subjective, and at its core it's still heroic fantasy same as hundreds of other systems and if you are put off by rolling two dice for metacurrency, it's likely not for you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That interrupting turn sequence part is the one that upsets me the most, and I'm not fond of the extra drag on pacing that the "yes, but"s and "no, however"s can have over time. If they are putting their weight behind it, I hope it's resonating with others, but if they intend to ever replace their D&D with Daggerheart, I wouldn't be thrilled with the substitution.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

Fair enough! I'm not going back to initiative order in any game I play for similar pacing reasons.