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[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (16 children)

I was about to say the list was incomplete as several million attended the Iraq war protests, but it turns out that was global and only a few hundred k Americans bothered to protest the invasion of Iraq based on manufactured propaganda.

The post 9/11 bloodthirsty hysteria, "you're either with us or against us" dissonance, religious nationalism, and ignorant patriotism is what made me believe the US would become an authoritarian dictatorship in my lifetime. Great job teenage me. I hate it.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago (9 children)

A lot of people forget the shear bloodlust in the USA after 9/11 that lasted for years.

When people compare the Vietnam and Iraq Wars, a lot of people forget there was a large chunk of the country who were rabidly pro Iraq War while there wasn't an equivalent base for the Vietnam War.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It felt like everyone was like you were either 1000% on board or you were casually on board cause you weren’t “into politics” but trying to find likeminded people who opposed it felt impossible to me. I was 16 when 9/11 happened and shortly after was when I stoped standing for the anthem or saluting the flag in the morning and I was the only kid in my highschool of 1,800 kids to do that and wow I got SO MUCH hate for it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

The spike in nationalism was intense, and hasn't really dropped back down to a reasonable baseline since.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This is online discourse in general with Americans. Nuance is impossible, it's all "you're either with us or against us", for example when discussing China. Doesn't even have to be something political, just any charged argument at a point in time.

Must be a coincidence that Lemmy was much more relaxed and welcoming when there were fewer Americans here in the beginning, you could even read news about European countries, now all we get is American politics spam.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Doesn't even have to be something political

Yeah, it does. Everything is political. I guarantee, you've never had an apolitical argument taken over by Americans, because there's no such thing as an apolitical argument

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"I liked the gameplay of Witcher 2 more than Witcher 3's"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

CDPR made the combat easier so the game would appeal to a wider audience and make more money. The Witcher games are getting worse because of capitalism. If money weren't involved, the devs could focus on making a work with artistic value, including in the gameplay, rather than chasing mass appeal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

"I liked the gameplay of Witcher 2 more than Witcher 1's"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Well that's just the advancement of human collective knowledge and skill over time due to the ability of society to pass on knowledge and make decisions about the future. That's pretty much the definition of politics. Group decision making.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Can't help but upvote this, despite your erroneous ideas lol

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