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[–] [email protected] 102 points 4 days ago (28 children)

I sit here sadly recalling similar pictures of Bush II vs. anti-war protests.

Afghanistan still got fucked. Iraq still got fucked. Our privacy rights got fucked. And the Republican plan to divide and conquer continued apace.

I am happy we got out there yesterday. I am worried just like last time we will let them get away with it.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Yes, the U.S. has a history of letting its politicians get away with things in the name of “moving on” and forgiveness. I think 90% of our problems are rooted in the reality that we have allowed past sins against our Bill of Rights and Consitution to go without facing justice. Not revenge, but justice:

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

We don’t look backwards, but look forward. -Obama

This total lack of accountability is precisely how we got here. Those in power should be held to a higher standard, not be given a free pass for corruption.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We don’t look backwards, but look forward.

-Obama

This total lack of accountability

Is it fun to quote out of context? It seems risky if it suggests you didn't understand what he was saying about navel-gazing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Obama was specifically referring to having no desire to prosecute W, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz for their egregious war crimes and lying to the American people to begin a war for plundering oil in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Given OP’s context of subverting justice for the sake of moving on, I find it extremely relevant.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Interesting to work through the counterfactual on that. A lot of people seem to forget how the early Tea Party started. An awful lot of them pretended that they weren't the same people supporting GWB all along.

So what happens if Obama does decide to prosecute members of the former admin? Does the Tea Party keep the ruse, or do they go to bat for them? How does that affect the outcome in the 2010 midterms?

Perhaps it would have made the Tea Party's astroturfing more apparent to everyone.

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