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Asus and Lenovo’s handhelds get price hike as Valve pauses some Steam Deck sales (www.theverge.com)
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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are fighting windmills, capische?

You made up an argument that I never made and now you are fighting against it.

Well done, Don Quijote, the windmill is destroyed and you can go home claiming you defended the land from evil giants.

[–] LainTrain 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you made up an argument that I never made

Original comment I'm responding to states:

so the total cost of ownership for a switch 2 probably still stays under the total cost of ownership for a handheld PC.

That point is incorrect. That is the point I'm disputing.

Maybe chill out bro it's ok to be wrong on the internet, the world goes on.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Price of the middle version of the Steam Deck: €569

Price of the middle version of the Switch 1: €284

So we got a price difference of €285 here.

€50 for the bundled Mario Kart upgrade plus 3 other full price titles, leaves us €55 to spend on another 5 indie titles, and then you got the average total cost of ownership for a switch for just about the price of the Steam Deck with a whopping 0 games on it.

The difference becomes starker if you go for the top-spec version: €679 for the Steam Deck, vs €329 for the Switch, a whopping €350 difference. For that difference you can afford Mario Kart plus 4 full-price titles and have another €60 remaining for a few indie titles.

[–] LainTrain 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lmao so you include all the deals for the switch with your "mario kart upgrade", but not the steam deck?

Ironically enough a steam deck with zero games on it is still a way more compelling device if we're describing a generic gaming device,, because all games on PC are free if you want them to be, and that's a library of hundreds of thousands of games. Then you consider it's also your laptop/main PC too...

Plus, if you must buy games, you're only a few quid away from one, not £60 + online fees etc etc.

We can go in circles forever though, but over the long term of course a PC or any Steam Deck will win in terms of ownership cost due to cheaper/free games. The issue is that we can't really calculate an objective metric of value there.

That also isn't the point I was even disputing, it's precisely that the ownership is more expensive because PC gamers buy more games, but either way you're wrong.

But if we keep going, we'll run into problems because of course it's apples to oranges to compare the value because these are largely mutually exclusive target audiences I'd imagine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

because all games on PC are free if you want them to be

If you include piracy, that's available on the Switch too. Worst case you have to chip in €10 for a mod chip, but that's it.

Lmao so you include all the deals for the switch with your “mario kart upgrade”, but not the steam deck?

Yeah, find me a deal to get Mario Kart for the steam deck legally.

Then you consider it’s also your laptop/main PC too…

You want to use a steam deck as a laptop? Do you really have no self respect?

That also isn’t the point I was even disputing, it’s precisely that the ownership is more expensive because PC gamers buy more games, but either way you’re wrong.

That was exactly my point. Steam Decks/PCs and consoles are used differently by different people, and in the end a Steam Deck is not cheaper than a console, even if you never pay a cent for a game (but then again, why are you buying a Steam Deck?)

But if we keep going

I get the feeling you don't actually want to discuss or talk about the topic, you just want to win. So yeah, no point in continuing the discussion.