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Just to be clear, I do think the obvious solution to terrible things like this is vastly expanded public transit so that people don't have to rely on cars to get everywhere, not overhyped technology and driving aids that are still only marginally better than a human driver. I just thought the article was interesting.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

Trains are great for moving people but only from one designated area to another. With most commuters, they might be all headed to the same city but completely different parts of the city that aren't easy to access. Their homes might all be in the same city but a 45 minute bus ride to the 40 minute train ride to the 20 minute bus ride, which isn't helpful for what might have been a 45 minute commute by car to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

Imagine if all the space between the primary radial arms of trains was filled in with street cars and pedestrian/micromobility centric spaces. Like the problem you are saying cars solve just doesn’t exist in the first place and people can still get around very easily. Even more rural folks can simply drive to the edge of this style of urban design if they need access to something. The reason bus rides are 45 minutes is because of the number of cars they have to put up with. The density of people that can be moved with shockingly good area coverage if cars are not a factor is incredible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

This sounds great but isn't really feasible in cities that are already built unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Look at the history of transportation in whatever city you’re imagining. Cars took over, but I guarantee that city had the transportation infrastructure you think isn’t feasible. The automobile industry has you brainwashed into thinking cars are the only option, but one just has to look at the history of transportation in any given city to know that that isn’t true.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

What does this even mean? Are you claiming all cities had railroad and public transportation hubs prior to cars being invented? I'm brainwashed because I don't believe you can just seize private property and demolish tons of homes and businesses to build more efficient infrastructure in every moderate to large city in the country? Prior to cars existing, most cities were tiny and people didn't commute 50 miles for work every day.

Can you point to the cities elsewhere where this transformation has occurred or where this already existed outside of maybe a handful of examples on the entire planet?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Educate yourself. You don’t have to be angry about it. And yes, all major cities had railroad and public transportation hubs before cars took over.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Sure they did, buddy. "Educate yourself" they say just like all those antivaxxers and COVID deniers do when they speak their nonsense. "All cities had public transportation" before automobiles existed.

Hilarious

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

You’re seriously attempting to argue with me about whether or not transportation existed before cars?

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