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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (30 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (29 children)

As the core of veganism is consent, there are several elements to consider:

  1. Consent of the substance's sentient source: The coffee bean seems more than willing to give this up... almost too willing. I don't think there's a direct issue here, but definitely warrants further consideration when other parties are involved.
  2. Consent of the substance's consumers: neither Mordecai nor Rigby seem to want what's going on. While Rigby signed the contract, and could be held to its terms under ideal circumstances, it's a rather predatory situation since it's presented in a language he doesn't understand. Mordecai didn't sign anything, did not consent even on paper, and is a complete victim here.
  3. While mostly related to point #2, contracts are often wielded as a tool of the powerful against the weak, and in an inequitable exchange ends up being little more than a justification to continue a coercive arrangement one party would back out of if given the choice.

So I'd say while the events depicted are not vegan, but the coffee itself as a substance is most likely vegan. It's a little hard to say for certain without more context tho, for instance if the bean is also coerced to act this way by outside forces.

[–] nsrxn 1 points 2 months ago (27 children)

the core of veganism is consent

consent doesn't appear anywhere in the vegan society definition of veganism. it's only about exploitation of animals.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you drop-in replace "x does not consent" with "x is being exploited" (making necessary grammatical adjustments), I feel like I'm still basically saying the same thing with the same takeaways

Consent violation and exploitation are fairly intertwined concepts, but exploitation generally sells better as a term to highlight injustice. For that reason perhaps it would have been better to use that term instead, but I've already spent enough time on my writing half-baked analysis on a 20 second clip from regular show

[–] nsrxn 0 points 2 months ago

If you drop-in replace “x does not consent” with “x is being exploited” (making necessary grammatical adjustments), I feel like I’m still basically saying the same thing with the same takeaways

since a well or forest or ecosystem could be exploited, I feel like your perspective is being narrowed by something undisclosed. it seems obvious to me that if we were discussing groundwater or ecosystems, you would never raise consent as an objection.

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