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MOND is a wonderful way to explain rotation curves but since then with new observations (bullet cluster, gravitational lensing, ...) MOND doesn't really hold up.
You might consider reading Accelerated Structure Formation: The Early Emergence of Massive Galaxies and Clusters of Galaxies. The paper is absolutely wonderful. The main thesis of the paper is, "Wow, the James Webb Telescope sure has been finding some remarkably mature galaxies for the early universe. Maybe we should consider the possibility that the models we use to predict galaxy formation, specifically lambda CDM, are incorrect and Non-Physical."
The author states the difficulty in the conclusion:
The complaints about the early maturation of galaxies seen by the JWST was widely reported. My favorite line from that article:
Sure, it's not that our theories of cosmology are incorrect; things like star formation were just different back in the early universe. I guess you just had to be there.
I'm still far from convinced about MOND. But I guess now I'm less confident in lambda CDM too -_-
I'm inclined to believe it's one or many of the potential explanations in your second link. But even then, those explanations are mostly postdictions so they hold less weight.
To which McGaugh et al. had this delicious reply: